Talk:Stanley Enow

Birth place and Bayangi

Moved from User talk:Versace1608#Stanley Enow

 – Article relevant discussion copied here and collapsed on user talk page. Sam Sailor ^Sing 20:33, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi there, who are you please? I recently did some changes on Stanely Enow's page which you have removed. The information you have there are incorrect and I would really not like to have the page up with all those incorrect information. I am his PR and I have people already asking me about the incorrect information. Please get back to me as I have no idea how to use this Wiki Talk Page. Thanks ModeMaisonPR (talk) 00:16, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

@ModeMaisonPR: I am a Wikipedian. Some of the changes you made weren't constructive, and this is why I reverted your edits. For starters, "solo_singer" should be on the background parameter. If you check the Infobox musical artist template, you'll clearly see that "Solo_artist" is not one of the mandatory options. The MAMA awards is known as the MTV Africa Music Awards. There's no such thing as the MTV Base Africa Music Awards. These two changes you made to the article are unacceptable. The rest of your edits were copyedits. Some of your edits were okay, but others weren't. I will restore the correction you made to the Persondata. You need to provide a reliable reference to support the alias you added. Versace1608 (Talk) 00:34, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

Please could you revert the changes I made to the personal data on the page. I thought you were to do it straight away. It is embarrassing to see those mistakes on there. Stanley Enow is not from the West region, his alias is Bayangi boy and not with a "u", there are also some grammatical errors I corrected. His name should be Stanley Ebai Enow. You dont see the other stars start their page with their surnames! This is common in Cameroon to appear on our documents but it is not like that internationally especially on personal pages. What prove do you need? If you cant make these changes until I provide back up, please take the page down. It is rather embarrassing for us to have this up. Thanks ModeMaisonPR (talk) 06:33, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

@ModeMaisonPR: I corrected the format of his name per your request. If he is not from the West region, where is he from? According to the bio on his official website, he is from the West region of Cameroon. If you disagree, you should provide a source to counter that. Bayangi is spelled correctly in the article. Feel free to edit the page again and remove grammatically errors from it. I don't want you to get discourage. You made a mistake earlier and I hope you understand why I did what I did. You don't need to get so worked up over this. Versace1608 (Talk) 13:13, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

Hello, I am not sure why I cannot amend where Stanley is from. On his official wensite page it states he is "born and raised" in the west region but not that he is a "native" of the west region. He is called Bayangi boy because he is from the Bayangi tribe found precisely in Manyu in the South West region of Cameroon. It is rather embarrassing for us that such an important information is written incorrectly. I have even had people query that with me and as his PR, it does not look good. Our names in Cameroon typically dictate our origins and "Ebai Enow" are typically Bayangi names. Please verify this on google or advise me on what I need to do. Thanks ModeMaisonPR (talk) 15:46, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

I understand what you're saying, but you need to provide a reliable source that authoritatively states this. Wikipedia relies on verifiability, and not on word of mouth. Try to find newspaper or magazine articles that support this information. Versace1608 (Talk) 16:00, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

@ModeMaisonPR: If he is born in the West Region, he is a native of the West Region. Whatever tribe or clan his parents stem from is irrelevant in this discussion. Best, Sam Sailor ^Sing 16:13, 10 June 2014 (UTC) (please  mention me on reply)

@Sam Sailor: Well said. This is what many Africans don't understand. Most of us think that one's origin should be where their parents are from. I can remember telling a sock puppet of Stanleytux several months ago. Versace1608 (Talk) 16:24, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

"This is what many Africans don't understand" is a rather presumptuous statement from your part. So are you the one to come and educate us on how we should view our origins? If in your culture it is understood differently in ours it is different thank you very much. We are a native of where our ancestry lie not our birthplace. Saying he is a westerner takes it away from his mum and dad who are proud south westerners. In any case, enough of the toing and froing here is a link to Stanley's updated website. Please amend to reflect this. http://stanleyenowofficial.com/bio/ Thank you very much ModeMaisonPR (talk) 18:17, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

I am an African myself. No need for the attacks bro. I was only pointing out the truth of the matter. User:Sam Sailor has already explained it, and the information will not be change. Enow is a native of Bafoussam. His parents being a native of Manyu doesn't make him one. If you disagree with what we're saying, take your concerns to Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard. Versace1608 (Talk) 18:34, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

Hello everyone

Really I think the main goal of Wikipedia and wikipedians is to provide more knowledge and the right one... Since the page has been created we have learned more about culture and English language.. For this article the main problem stands on the word "native" I think @ModeMaisonPR: want people to know he is from the bayangi tribe which is in the south west region of the country and for knowledge this is very important! According to the definition of "native" in the oxford dictionary by saying he is born in bafoussam (in the infobox) we don't really need to say he is native of bafoussam in the article but we most add the information he is from the bayangi tribe very important for knowledge let us give the good information.— Preceding unsigned comment added by The girl Nini.C (talk • contribs) 19:29, 10 June 2014‎

The girl Nini.C makes a really fine suggestion saying we should leave out the word "native", I'm for that. ... But before we go on, I suggest that we continue this discussion on the articel talk page where it belongs. Is it ok with you, Versace, if I collapse the thread here and close it? Best, Sam Sailor ^Sing 20:06, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

@The girl Nini.C: The words native and ethnicity cannot be used interchangeably because they are distinct. The word native is "the place or environment in which a person was born" and ethnicity refers to "the characteristic of a people, especially a group (ethnic group) sharing a common and distinctive culture, religion, language, or the like." When you say that "he is from the bayangi tribe", you are actually referring to his ethnicity. @Sam Sailor: Go ahead and do what you need to do. I agree that this discussion should be on the article's talk page. Versace1608 (Talk) 20:18, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

i Agree with you, it is two different informations that need to be mentionned , and that are now mention on the article "he was born in bafoussam so he is a native of bafoussam" wich is on the infobox and he is from the bayangui tribe his ethnic group and i tink that's what ModeMaisonPR wanted us to understand...195.24.206.124 (talk) 21:21, 10 June 2014 (UTC)--195.24.206.124 (talk) 21:21, 10 June 2014 (UTC) The girl Nini.C

You can add his ethnicity to the article, but you can't say that he is a native of the "bayangi tribe". Versace1608 (Talk) 23:28, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

What I hear from the above is that Bayangi is an important identity marker. Fair enough. I can understand there are some 250 ethnic groups in Cameroon. But among the articles we do have, Bayangi people is not yet one of them. I suggest a stub is created. Any takers? One other thing: I see the COI editor above in real time made edits to http://stanleyenowofficial.com/bio/ to fit his edit request. I'm going to remove that url as a referenced source per WP:PRIMARY/WP:SPSSELF. There's a good secondary here that strangely isn't referenced in the article yet. It is interesting bc he does state in an interview that "My name is Stanley Enow. I’m the most sought-after rapper in Cameroon at the moment, Born in Bamenda, I attended government bilingual primary and high School Bafoussam. I later had my Bachelor’s degree from the University of Douala." Sam Sailor ^Sing 12:40, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

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