Talk:Star Wars: Battlefront II (2005 video game)

Criticism ?

Excuse me, but I really miss a "Criticism" part in the article. One point, for example, would be that the Patch 1.3 (the articles doesn't even mention any patches at all, by the way) was released in BETA status only - and that this patch was only for US-American versions of the game. The patch seemingly doesn't cover any other country versions. This is especially important because some Mods already require it. This could mean that non-English language versions of the game won't be able to utilize Mods that require the 1.3 BETA patch.

Another point of criticism I miss is that the additional downloadable content was only made available for consoles, the xbox, especially. The result of these exclusive downloads is effectively excluding PC owners from this additional content. Alrik Fassbauer (talk) 19:08, 25 December 2010 (UTC)

Two things -- 1) The Battlefront II only ever got to version 1.1. You're thinking of Battlefront 1. 2) - Console-exclusive content is a standard thing for hundreds of games, and so does not need a mention. --Teancum (talk) 20:36, 25 December 2010 (UTC)

"Battlefrnt"

When players play this game on the Xbox 360, doesn't it show up as Star Wars Battlefrnt 2???? StaticGull  Talk  10:42, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Maybe you have a "bootleg" version? Mine says "Battlefront" --121.217.78.138 (talk) 02:08, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

Referenced in Death Star (novel)

The prison uprising battle in the 501 campaign is mentioned in the Death Star novel. It begins as merely a rumor of an escape attempt to the battle in the game.

Some of the characters pf the novel are in the cantina talking about rumors of an escape attempt in the detention area. They jokingly add more to the story: one says there was a riot by dozens of inmates, another adds that there were several Jedi, who were the ringleaders, and then another character finally adds that next thing you know, it took Vader's 501st to put it down. They all laugh as more and more is added to the story. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.230.120.133 (talk) 03:26, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Intel i915 chipset problem?

i have battlefront 2 and a i915 chipset and the game takes forever to load levels and the game itself take around 2 minutes to get to the main menu. is this an internal problem or a glitch in the program itself. i cant find any information on the internet about it and wanted to add it to the article. Thanks. 31306D696E6E69636B6D (talk) 18:20, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Major Butt Whoop!

⊕Assasin Joe ^talk 13:36, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Ihave dell XP and the same thing happens,and it kicks me out of the game when I play space battles! Please help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.206.96.247 (talk) 18:44, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

That's it! That's What happens to me exactly! I still can't find anything about it at all! 31306D696E6E69636B6D (talk) 19:47, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

closed online

cant find a source but all online is closed for this game u cant find a game and its closed you can only play with bots

people can u find a source !

Uh... I am not sure what system you are using for this game, but for the PC there is still a large online community that regularly plays.

It may not be as big as it used to be but it is still there make sure you are on version 1.1--99.237.222.73 (talk) 02:43, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

131.183.240.192 (talk) 05:48, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

And PS2!

PC Cds

How many Cd's come in the PC CD-ROM package? I have heard the numbers 4 and 5. 24.119.7.28 (talk) 20:20, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

There are five CD's in the CD-ROM version. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.145.186.242 (talk) 03:05, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Depends on where/when you bought it. My game (bought it from GameStop about a week after it came out) had only four discs --Teancum (talk) 03:53, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

References for sourcing the article.

This is more for my own purposes, but if anyone wants to add these along the way feel free. Below are a list of references that could be used to expand the article.

previews

• GameSpot, Planet Preview, Multiplayer and Jedi
• IGN (PC version), Special Classes,
• GameSpy, second preview
• GameSpy Pandemic Dev Diary

other

• SWBF2 Announced - IGN
• IGN "Wrap Report" (a retrospective)
• IGN Guide (useful for explaining gameplay)

--Teancum (talk) 18:15, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

requested assement

This is still C-class. This is mostly because the gameplay section is far too exhaustive, especially given the other sections. Plot looks like it could be tightened up some (like merging that small setting paragraph) and other small paragraphs, but its not as bad as the former.陣内_Jinnai 01:20, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

I have copy edited both sections, however Battlefront II is known for its extensive game modes, and I can't trim down the gameplay section any further without hurting the article. The first section provides necessary background, the second the two campaings; console/PC and PSP, the third the extensive Galactic Conquest mode, and the fourth the five modes found in Instant Action. Each has been trimmed to provide the necessary information without adding additional, unneeded info. Additionally the article as it stands falls safely under the six WP:BCLASS criteria. Trimming the article any further would make it fail #2 of the criteria. Please reconsider a B-Class assessment. --Teancum (talk) 01:53, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

It has a lot that can be trimmed. I'll take 1 paragraph as an example.

original

In Conquest mode, players are required to capture "Command posts".[7] Players capture command posts by standing near it until the holograph projected from the command post turns blue.[7] Players can capture neutral command posts, which are white, or may capture enemy command posts, which are red. Capturing a command post that is occupied by the enemy requires the player to de-energize the enemy command post, then re-energize it for their team. Until the command post is completely de-energized enemy units may spawn at a given command post to defend their territory. When all command posts belong to a given team, a short timer begins. The opposite team has until the timer runs out to de-energize a command post. If that team does not succeed, the team with all command posts captured is declared the winner. Alternatively if one team eliminates all opposing reinforcements they are declared the winner.[5]

edited

In Conquest mode, players are required to capture command posts. Players capture command posts by standing near one until its holograph turns blue.[7] Players can capture both enemy command posts (red) and neutral command posts (white). For enemy command posts, enemy units can continue to spawn in the area until they are de-energized. When all command posts belong to a given team, a short timer begins in which the opposing team must de-energize a command post or they lose. Alternatively, if one team eliminates all opposing reinforcements, they win.[5]

I didn't do too much work on this, but I cleaned it up substantially and much of it was editing prose to be more concise. I did remove the element of how to de-energize a command post because that's not fundamental to understanding the gameplay, ie that is WP:GAMEGUIDEy because its telling you how to play the game, ie do X to get result Y. Any reader reading the latter can understand that their is a phase between total capture of a command post and total control, which is all they need to know.陣内_Jinnai 07:37, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Trimmed another ~300 words off the Gameplay section by rewriting. I don't feel comfortable trimming any more, however. --Teancum (talk) 16:52, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

B-Class justification

B-Class criteria

Taken from WP:BCLASS The article is suitably referenced, with inline citations where necessary. It has reliable sources, and any important or controversial material which is likely to be challenged is cited. The use of citation templates such as {{cite web}} is not required, but the use of <ref></ref> tags is encouraged. The article reasonably covers the topic, and does not contain obvious omissions or inaccuracies. It contains a large proportion of the material necessary for an A-Class article, although some sections may need expansion, and some less important topics may be missing. The article has a defined structure. Content should be organized into groups of related material, including a lead section and all the sections that can reasonably be included in an article of its kind. The article is reasonably well-written. The prose contains no major grammatical errors and flows sensibly, but it certainly need not be "brilliant". The Manual of Style need not be followed rigorously. The article contains supporting materials where appropriate. Illustrations are encouraged, though not required. Diagrams and an infobox etc. should be included where they are relevant and useful to the content. The article presents its content in an appropriately accessible way. It is written with as broad an audience in mind as possible. Although Wikipedia is more than just a general encyclopedia, the article should not assume unnecessary technical background and technical terms should be explained or avoided where possible.

1. The entire article is well referenced, using both Template:Cite web and Template:Cite video game.
2. All major aspects of the game are covered without unnecessary detail. Each section provides the minimal amount to help the reader understand the process of gameplay, the flow of the plot, etc. Section sizes are relative to importance and content available both from the game and from references.
3. Article layout complies with WP:MOS and its subsets, including WP:MOSIMAGES and Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Article guidelines.
4. Article has had multiple copy edits to ensure that grammatical errors have been fixed and that it is easy to understand, however, as the criteria states, it certainly need not be "brilliant".
5. Two images, an infobox and a multiplatform reviews template exist on the page. Images have proper captions per WP:CAPTION, and the infobox and review template provide necessary information that is well sourced.
6. The article has uncommon terms wikilinked to allow the reader to get further understanding, and any terms that cannot be wikilinked are explained.

I have trimmed the Gameplay section (approx 300 words) in accordance with the assessment, and have trimmed other bits and pieces as seen here. The quotes issue listed for the Jet Moto assessment has also been fixed in this article. Please let me know what other weaknesses still exist so that I can clean this up and get it approved. Thanks. --Teancum (talk) 16:59, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

In fairness, I think gameplay is still overly detailed, but I the rest is fine. Since B-class doesn't need to be perfect though, I think its probably fine for that.陣内_Jinnai 20:08, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

IGN

Should the IGN review comment be removed because that reviewer was fired by IGN for being inaccurate and vague. many other reviews have noted his terrible ability not only on this review but on nearly all of the reviews IGN have published of his. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.172.236.69 (talk) 23:14, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

I can't find anything on him actually being fired. --Teancum (talk) 23:43, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Infobox

In the Infobox, the "Platform(s)" field includes "PC". I think that the "Platform(s)" field should specify a value or values from the " Supported platforms" section of the Vgclegend template. For example, if Star Wars: Battlefront II only runs on MS-DOS, then Star Wars: Battlefront II's Infobox should specify "DOS" in the "Platform(s)" field. ProResearcher (talk) 02:42, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Best seller

Should it be noted that this game is the most successful Star Wars video game? It even says it's the best seller on the front cover. (As seen on the images on this article) --121.217.78.138 (talk) 02:06, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

Agreed--I haven't done it yet because I'd like to see if there are some actual numbers to go along with it. --Teancum (talk) 11:58, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

Suggest page move to Star Wars: Battlefront II (2005 video game)

I'm suggesting this move to avoid confusion with Star Wars Battlefront II (2017 video game) and to maintain uniformality with the original game which was moved to Star Wars: Battlefront (2004 video game). Discuss below. Gistech (talk) 10:15, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

Name

Why do you write Star Wars: Battlefront with a colon? Doesn't it mean Star Wars Battlefront as it's seen on the box art work? Maxeto0910 (talk) 18:32, 12 July 2019 (UTC)