Talk:Music of Star Wars

Requested move 15 September 2015

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The result of the move request was: MOVED per consensus.Tiggerjay (talk) Tiggerjay (talk) 20:15, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

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Star Wars music → Music of Star Wars – Per consistency with other titles, like Music of Kingdom Hearts and Music of Final Fantasy VIII. George Ho (talk) 15:56, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

• Support English grammar In ictu oculi (talk) 18:37, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

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Force Awakens?

Is anyone working on descriptions of the new score? Is there a particular way we should go about it? There are many important new themes that should be covered. Schlockading (talk) 02:37, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

Descriptions for minor motifs?

I think the minor motifs should have descriptions. I hated having to listen very closely on the soundtrack to find the theme "Imperial Walkers." I still haven't found "Mos Eisley Spaceport" (but I think it might be the brass fanfare when Luke and Obi-Wan saw Mos Eisley.) I put an unfinished description in the revision history for Zam Wesell's theme, so I think everyone would have a hard time identifying it as I did. 137.119.119.234 (talk) 13:50, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

Okay, maybe Mos Eisley Spaceport theme is the music written for the dianoga scene. 137.119.119.234 (talk) 13:50, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

What defines "original research" in the case of this article?

Obviously there are no official sources that can provide accurate information for all the themes and motifs, and how they are used. Reviews of the soundtracks usually miss intricacies of the music that are discovered by listeners. So this article technically requires original research, which is against Wikipedia's policies. The best studies of these scores come from film music forums such as Filmtracks and JWFan. Would citing forum posts from these websites be considered original research, given that many users on those forums are experts on this topic? Adervae (talk) 00:44, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

Unfortunately that's how Wikipedia works - if there are no sources, then a statement must be removed from an article. No article requires original research. According to Wikpedia's official policy on original research, "The phrase "original research" (OR) is used on Wikipedia to refer to material—such as facts, allegations, and ideas—for which no reliable, published sources exist". However, I would suggest that if you and other editors want to find sources supporting the description of "intricacies of the music", you should look beyond reviews of the soundtracks. Film music forums are definitely not reliable sources. Published books about film music are the place to look - visit your local library, buy something from a book shop, or search on Google books. This article has been tagged as lacking in sources for 10 years now and I think it's really time for editors to bring it up to standard, or for content should be removed.14:05, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

Books and publications about film music are often very vague. It's not like newspapers publish a detailed analysis of every new score that comes out. The only book that goes into extreme detail about themes and motives is The Music of the Lord of the Rings Films by Doug Adams. In my opinion, the more things are published digitally, the more Wikipedia needs to expand its horizon of acceptable sources. From my experience on film music forums, many of the posters there are absolutely experts on this subject and should be considered as reliable sources, in my opinion. Adervae (talk) 03:23, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

Sorry that's not how Wikpedia works. If it can't be referenced to a published work, then it doesn't belong on Wikipedia and it will get deleted. It's all explained at Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources. Cnbrb (talk) 18:17, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

Ok. I'm working on sourcing the article and removing non-sourced material. Adervae (talk) 23:59, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

Singles and Albums

This article should include a list of official singles and albums of Star Wars music -- 65.94.168.229 (talk) 10:50, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

I agree, but will leave it to others to tackle that task. What I will do, however, is spin off a separate article for the Main Title theme, just as I have done for "Theme from Close Encounters of the Third Kind". - JGabbard (talk) 03:45, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

Most of the film franchise music articles have soundtrack releases on separate pages. The exceptions are the Lord of the Rings and the Hobbit. Adervae (talk) 03:16, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

Rogue One - Diegetic music

At Saw's compound, Saw's soldiers appear to be listening to jazzy/dance music with a holographic dancer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:A000:1326:C091:9098:DFE6:B913:2CA1 (talk) 21:13, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

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Missing Soundtracks

Some newer soundtracks are missing from the list, but I do not know enough personally to feel confident adding them. They include:

• Star Wars: Galaxy's Edge Oga's Cantina: R3X's Playlist #1 (cantina music from the themed area at Disneyland, 2019) -- https://open.spotify.com/album/2UaqneQVFLgZ65ymj8h3Aj?si=LBLF7oN-SxmfuzuuR3Tp7A
• Star Wars: Jedi Temple Challenge composed by Gordy Haab (game show on the Star Wars Kids website, 2020) -- https://open.spotify.com/album/7DHmBVHm70nEgeba2hEU3f?si=t2UCIAckSde7Ib000Wa3xQ
• Star Wars: Squadrons composed by Gordy Haab (video game, 2020) -- https://open.spotify.com/album/5sDUesNpIHcpjMn7wgYPih?si=BChpQ3y7QrmgdSiZuau0iA

Not sure if the following series music has been released:

• Star Wars Detours composed by Michael A. Levine (unreleased animated series, circa 2012)
• Star Wars Forces of Destiny composed by Ryan Shore (animated series, 2017) -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c36gnAytzyA
• Star Wars Resistance composed by Michael Tavera (animated series, 2018) -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSJNIeD8lNA

Not sure if the following video game music has been released:

• Star Wars: X-Wing series composed by Peter McConnell (video games, 1993-1999)
• Star Wars: Rebel Assault series composed by Peter McConnell (video games, 1993-1995)
• Star Wars: Jedi Knight composed by Peter McConnell (video game, 1997)

(While there are many other video games, the Wikipedia pages don't list a composer so the music was not likely released... composer Peter McConnell seems to be the main omission from this article though.) --Mecandes (talk) 03:21, 4 March 2021 (UTC)