Talk:State of Slovenes, Croats and Serbs/Archive 1
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State of Slovenes, Croats and Serbs and Vojvodina
Vojvodina (including Banat, Bačka and Baranja) was not part of this state. Srem (as part of former Croatia-Slavonia) was part of it. In 1918, after the collapse of Austria-Hungary, the only authority established in Vojvodina were "Serbian National Boards", which all were under the supreme authority of the "Serbian National Board in Novi Sad" (later, the "National administration for Banat, Bačka and Baranja" (Narodna uprava za Banat, Bačku i Baranju) was formed, and this authority was some kind of government of Vojvodina). So, Vojvodina had its own authority in this time and had nothing to do with the State of Slovenes, Croats and Serbs. Vojvodina (ruled by its own authority) joined to Serbia on November 25, 1918, and then Serbia (including Montenegro and Vojvodina) united with the State of Slovenes, Croats and Serbs on December 1, 1918. Srem, which at first was part of the State of Slovenes, Croats and Serbs, seceded from this state and joined Serbia on November 24, 1918 (one day before Vojvodina joined to Serbia). PANONIAN (talk) 23:12, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
Narodno vijeće and native names
I have changed the English translation of Narodno vijeće from People's Council to National Council, since People's Council translates to Croatian as Ljudsko vijeće and to Slovene as Ljudski svet. The use of "People's Council" is therefor incorrect.
Also, I have changed the order in which the native nominations of State of SCS are listed in the parenthesis, so that it now fits the nations as they are listed in the State's official title (i.e., Slovene name, Croatian name, Serbian name). I did this to avoid possible cultural conflicts in the future. --Xdx 17:38, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
Reversal?
Why is the order of the nations reversed from the kingdom? 203.218.88.120 14:13, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
- Presumably they reflect the relative number of people in the two countries. The State was not the same country as the Kingdom, and did not include Serbia or Montenegro. -- Arwel (talk) 14:19, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
- Nor Vojvodina. Plus, Macedonia was back then a part of Serbia. The ambiguous status of parts of Bosnia and Herzegovina's also there. --PaxEquilibrium 13:32, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
- Well actually, the order of the nations was determined geographically, from west to east. Later in the Kingdom the order represented the number of people like Arwell said. --Vkreso (talk) 02:11, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
- Nor Vojvodina. Plus, Macedonia was back then a part of Serbia. The ambiguous status of parts of Bosnia and Herzegovina's also there. --PaxEquilibrium 13:32, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
Suggestion
Why simply place "Austria-Hungary" as its predecessor - when we know the exact entities that made this State. My suggestion is to replace the "<-" bit with "Croatia-Slavonia", "Dalmatia", "Bosnia-Herzegovina" and "Slovene lands" with their appropriate flags. --PaxEquilibrium 13:40, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
I disagree. Those were not countries, but just "regions" if you will, for want of a better term. Wikingus 08:48, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
False map
The map was erroneous and based simply on Yugoslav borders of 1921 minus 1914-Serbia and Montenegro. But the borders with Austria were established only after some LoN referendums, Dalmatia had fallen under Allied military occupation according to the surrender armistice of Austria, borders with Hungary were unlimited, and Serbian troops had occupied more than the simple pre-war Serbian territory. --95.245.130.211 (talk) 14:21, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
removal of the Kingdom of Croatia-Slavonia
I was tempted to revert the edit removing Kingdom of Croatia-Slavonia from the flaglist, http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=State_of_Slovenes,_Croats_and_Serbs&diff=next&oldid=400814418
Even if it was not independant, this edit now makes the wikipedia incosistant. the article Kingdom of Croatia-Slavonia points to here as its ending point, then logically it would have ended in the Austro-Hungarian Empire and not in the State of Slovenes, Croats and Serbs. We need to make sure this is consistent.
mike James Michael DuPont (talk) 16:45, 6 December 2010 (UTC)