Talk:Stay Together for the Kids/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Cloudz679 (talk · contribs) 06:27, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

• Running through the prose, on first glance the following may be issues:

• "follows and is written about"
• "Both he and bassist Mark Hoppus were both growing up"
• "he was age eight"
• "his parent's divorce"
• "In 2002, divorce statistics were four times higher than their average just over thirty years prior"
• "the band and label MCA" first mention of MCA, so "its label", or an introduction in a previous sentence?
• "The band ended up re-shooting the entire video" re-recording would be more appropriate within this context
• One sentence section in "In popular culture"

C679 06:59, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

Updated most of those, though I don't know how to improve both of these:

• "Both he and bassist Mark Hoppus were both growing up"
• "In 2002, divorce statistics were four times higher than their average just over thirty years prior"

Also, where else would I put that "in popular culture" trivia? I find it noteworthy, but it wouldn't go anywhere else. Saginaw-hitchhiker (talk) 20:57, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

"Both" should appear once at most, and not twice, although is it necessary at all?

The divorce statistics seem vague. Was it 31 years? What a strange measure. Update: source mentions 1970, unclear why this has been clouded.

Regarding the popular culture section, perhaps you can find something else to add, or move it to a different part of the text? C679 21:24, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

• additionally: "DeLonge later confirmed he would receive emails from fans" he had received
• "a fast tempo of 72 beats per minute" isn't 'fast' somewhat misleading? 'fast' was appropriate for the 215 bpm in the last GA review, but not here
• "Following its peak, the single spent 26 weeks on the chart as a whole,[16]" the source indicates 26 total weeks and not 26 after its peak
• "before exiting the charts in the issue dated March 16, 2002.[17]" the source suggests it was still in the charts that week - perhaps "charted for the last time" or similar
• fn18 appears to verify the claim "It also peaked at number 16 and spent five weeks on the Bubbling Under Hot 100 Singles chart, which documents top singles that have yet to chart on the main chart, the Hot 100" but the chart is not explicitly mentioned at the referenced page. Is something missing?
• "By June 2002, the song had accumulated over 80,000 spins on radio in the United States.[19]" this appears to be some kind of award. Could you add to the article?
• fn20 isn't working for me, and needs an accessdate.
• fn22 webcite seems to be broken
• ""The ’90s had Generation X — have we ended up with Generation Whine? [...] After all, they came of age during a period of unprecedented affluence — white, suburban America benefited from the longest sustained economic boom the country had ever seen. [...] As the clichéd elder might mutter, what’s wrong with kids today?"" is the length of this quote really called for?
• ""Is this a damaged generation? Yeah, I think so."[6]" not verbatim from the source
• "The band filmed the music video on September 9–10, 2001 in Los Angeles,[25]" source is a prediction of September, can a better source be found?
• Citation style is not completely consistent. Some authors are given FN LN and others as LN, FN. This should be standardized.

• Images check out, one is fair-use with appropriate rationale and the other one is suitably licensed for use within the article. On hold pending the final part of the review. C679 14:01, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

Hey there. Updated almost everything. One note:

• That's very odd that the Billboard link for the Bubbling Under singles doesn't explicitly SAY the name of the chart. Despite this, it is indeed a listing of the band's positions on that chart. I'm leaving it as is in the charts section, but I've also included an additional reference to a book documenting all the Bubbling Under singles for its appearance in the Commercial performance section.

Thanks! Saginaw-hitchhiker (talk) 03:57, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

• Thank you for your prompt action, closing as pass. C679 04:13, 8 April 2015 (UTC)