Talk:Stay Up Late

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by 97198 (talk) 05:17, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

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• ... that John Oliver purchased Stay Up Late, an erotic furry watercolor, for $1,000 and a $20,000 donation to a food bank?  See any article for the description of the painting. "Oliver paid $1,000 for the painting, which sold for $80 during a WITF-TV auction in 1992. He also made a donation of $20,000 to an undisclosed Pennsylvania food bank." [1]

• Reviewed: Plaza Moriones, Intramuros

Converted from a redirect by Guerillero (talk). Self-nominated at 13:48, 15 April 2020 (UTC).

•  Reviewing... DTM (talk) 14:09, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
• Article converted from a redirect to an article on 14 April and nominated within time. Meets the minimum prose length at 1800+ characters (reqd 1500+). Earwigs gives 'Violation Unlikely'. I don't see any other issues. Hook is referenced. QPQ done.

GTG DTM (talk) 14:59, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

Notability

Is this article notable enough for wikipedia? Its a single painting that was covered on a tv show three times for comedic effect. I don't think that it really deserves to have its own wikipedia article.TimeEngineer (talk) 01:44, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Several national, regional, and local outlets covered the search for the painting. In actu (Guerillero) ^{Parlez Moi} 03:08, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Addition of Gallery 33 video

There is a YouTube upload -from what I can assume is Swords' own account- of his artwork (including this painting) being showcased on Gallery 33, I was wondering if it was allowed to add this to the External links section because I am unsure considering this was likely recorded by the account owner and not uploaded by WITF-TV -Gouleg🛋️ (Stalk • Hound) 23:41, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

GA Review

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This review is transcluded from Talk:Stay Up Late/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Golden (talk · contribs) 19:03, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

Lead

• Add comma after Between 1988 and 1993 to separate the introductory phrase from the main clause.
• Change an yearly to "an annual".
• Add comma after explicit.
• The inclusion of the last two sentences in the first paragraph is confusing because their relation to Stay Up Late isn't clear. If I understand correctly, Stay Up Late was one of the paintings that led to WITF-TV banning erotica. I suggest changing it to something along these lines: "Stay Up Late was one of the paintings that Swords donated to an annual art auction for WITF-TV, and the explicitness of his later paintings, including Stay Up Late, eventually led to the channel banning erotica in 1993."
• Remove comma after $80 (equivalent to $150 in 2021).
• Change to commentate on to "to comment on" - We should avoid jargon.
• Change five city tour to "five-city-tour".

Background

• Italicize "Omaha" the Cat Dancer and The Secret of NIMH.
• Change that depict to "which depict".
• Remove commas before and after named Alice and Bob.
• Change last sentence to something along these lines: "In 1993, WITF-TV banned erotica from their yearly auction "Gallery 33" due to fear of alienating their audience and losing their FCC license".
• Wikilink erotica at first mention in article body.

Description

• You can add the "It's as if Monet had a furry period." (from this source) comment of Oliver to this section.
• I'm not sure if words like rats and ashtray need to be wikilinked. They may be considered MOS:OVERLINK.

Provenance

• In my opinion, "History" would be a better section title than "Provenance" because it is a more familiar word to readers.
• Change offered to buy the painting to "offered to buy it".
• Change and a $20,000 donation to a food bank. to "and make a $20,000 donation to a food bank".
• Paraphrase one of the writing for instances to avoid repetition.
• Change As a part of a October 2021 to "As part of an October 2021".
• Break up the first sentence of the third paragraph.
• Change Each museum visited to "Each visited museum".
• Change lamb chop and neckties probably don't need to be wikilinked.

References

• Add archive links for refs #3, 5, and 10.

Additional comments

• Earwig shows no copyvio.
• All sources are reliable and support the claims for which they're cited.
• The only picture in the article is relevant and has been appropriately tagged for fair use.
• Overall, great job. Happy to pass once the above points are addressed.

— Golden ^{call me maybe?} 20:25, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

I see this and will get to it tomorrow. -- Guerillero ^{Parlez Moi} 18:34, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

@Golden All have been done except removing provenance, which is a common term in fine art. -- Guerillero ^{Parlez Moi} 20:24, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

@Guerillero: Great. I have one more suggestion: The first paragraph and the first sentence of the second paragraph of the Provenance section seem to be describing the same event. Both mention the $1,000 purchase and the $20,000 donation. The only new information in the second paragraph is the exact date of the John Oliver episode. So, I suggest adding the date to the first paragraph and removing the sentence from the second paragraph. P.S. Apply the third point I made in the Provenance section to the first paragraph as well. — Golden ^{call me maybe?} 20:43, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

@Golden: I trimmed it, because it was repetitive -- Guerillero ^{Parlez Moi} 21:11, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

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