Talk:Steamroller (microarchitecture)
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AMD Platform Security Processor presence in Steamroller
editThe article contains the claim that was made in some marketing materials about an "Integrated custom ARM Cortex-A5 co-processor with TrustZone Security Extensions" but the following link calls into question whether the PSP ever made it into Steamroller-based chips: https://freundschafter.com/research/amd-processors-without-amd-psp-secure-technology/ 174.250.14.3 (talk) 21:13, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
quotes
editThe quotes on steamroller architecture that have been extracted from commit patches sent to the gcc-patches mailing list. The code (which is inclusive of the comments) itself is licensed as GNU General Public License (version 3 or later) with GCC Runtime Library Exception.
Further modification of this page should be reviewed by someone with background knowledge in compilers or comp. architecture.
AM3+ Steamroller CPU Future?
editI'm of the option that AMD has cancelled any future plans of producing an AM3+ Steamroller and thus should be removed from the article for the following reasons:
- Lack of any AMD roadmap (public or leaked) showing AM3+ Steamroller
- Lack of news on a 1000-series motherboard chipset (900-series is now over 2 years old)
- AMD server roadmap shows Piledriver cores through 2014 (Warsaw CPUs)
- Lack of any (public or leaked) codenames for the 1000-series or Steamroller AM3+ CPU
- The Sept 2012 news article anticipating AM3+ Steamroller is speculating, AMD could be referencing the new chip as being the Centurion FX-9370/9350
- AMD has every reason to be hush-hush about canceling AM3+ plans to avoid harming current sales of AM3+ CPUs and chipsets due to it being considered a dying platform.
Castaa (talk) 13:26, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
- I highly doubt they have. I looked at the roadmap, and the desktop cpu roadmap doesn't extend beyond this year. I find it hard to believe that they would cancel it. the warsaw cpus are part of the SERVER (opteron) roadmap... to remove it, I feel, fall under WP:crystal. I just edited it to say that it hasn't been confirmed. also, amd stated that it is committed to am3+ through 2015. if you recall, amd was very hush-hush about piledriver as well. -- Aunva6talk - contribs 15:25, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
- I feel in this specific case, you are crystal balling based on "they've always made a CPU in the past" type thinking and not producing any tangible evidence to the positive. Based on this line of reasoning, at what time in the future would you be willing to concede without further evidence there isn't going to be a new CPU? AMD is going to keep making AM3+ Vishera parts because a 8-core Vishera is going to best a 4-core Kaveri for certain desktop tasks. This is going to be true until at least 2015 when Excavator is released. So there's 2 years of AM3+ support. And news articles where reporting on leaked reports about Vishera (by name) in the early fall 2011, a full year before its actual release. Heck, we are seeing reports of a codename for Excavator (Carrizo) based APU already. Castaa (talk) 18:39, 29 July 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Castaa (talk • contribs) 18:37, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
- VR-zone has published information suggesting that according to leaked internal AMD documents they possess, the FX CPU line is dead: Interestingly the document also made it clears the days of the big core are numbered, leaving the FX-9590 as the final legacy of the FX line. Read more: http://vr-zone.com/articles/hold-for-publication-why-its-a-big-deal-that-amd-is-delaying-kaveri/49389.html Castaa (talk) 04:37, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
- 'The days of the big core being numbered' doesn't make sense. Big cores are in Kaveri and will be in Carrizo. 'Small cores' are Bobcat, Jaguar, those types of parts. NarooN (talk) 06:09, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
- VR-zone has published information suggesting that according to leaked internal AMD documents they possess, the FX CPU line is dead: Interestingly the document also made it clears the days of the big core are numbered, leaving the FX-9590 as the final legacy of the FX line. Read more: http://vr-zone.com/articles/hold-for-publication-why-its-a-big-deal-that-amd-is-delaying-kaveri/49389.html Castaa (talk) 04:37, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
- I feel in this specific case, you are crystal balling based on "they've always made a CPU in the past" type thinking and not producing any tangible evidence to the positive. Based on this line of reasoning, at what time in the future would you be willing to concede without further evidence there isn't going to be a new CPU? AMD is going to keep making AM3+ Vishera parts because a 8-core Vishera is going to best a 4-core Kaveri for certain desktop tasks. This is going to be true until at least 2015 when Excavator is released. So there's 2 years of AM3+ support. And news articles where reporting on leaked reports about Vishera (by name) in the early fall 2011, a full year before its actual release. Heck, we are seeing reports of a codename for Excavator (Carrizo) based APU already. Castaa (talk) 18:39, 29 July 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Castaa (talk • contribs) 18:37, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
They have to replace Warsaw eventually and Kaveri is big core as well.Oranjelo100 (talk) 12:17, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
Possibly no steamroller FX CPUs? • Sbmeirow • Talk • 05:31, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
- http://www.cpu-world.com/news_2013/2013120201_New_AMD_desktop_roadmap_Carrizo_APUs_in_2015_no_new_FX_CPUs.html
- http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1794070
just want to mention, neither of the sources that support "AMD has confirmed... " actually say that, nor do they cite any announcements from AMD. -- Aunva6talk - contribs 01:31, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
Removal of architecture section
editI've removed this section again. The issue isn't whether it's informative or not but whether it's a copyright violation. We can't use copyrighted material for legal reasons except under a claim of fair use and I believe this quote does not qualify for fair use for two reasons - firstly it's too long and secondly we're not discussing the quote or in any other way doing something transformative with it we're just using to create the section. Please see Wikipedia:Copyrights and Wikipedia:Non-free content for more on this. Dpmuk (talk) 14:30, 18 September 2013 (UTC)