Talk:Steel mill

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This article still needs some work, but I've redone the introduction. It used to say Steel is an alloy of iron produced through iron ore, coke, limestone being smelted in a blast furnace, which just isn't accurate. A blast furnace produces pig iron or molten iron, but not steel.

The intro is now accurate, but there's a lot of duplication. And, like many other articles that describe processes that have existed since the industrial revolution, there's also the need to be careful not to just describe the process as it is now and in one place (and often in English Wikipedia this means the USA, as that's where most of our contributors live) and imply that this is what it's always been everywhere. We need to do the research and find out what the process is in other places, and was in other times, and/or try to phrase the article so it's obvious exactly what is being described, which is often not easy. Andrewa 04:52, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

I would agree with your comments Andrewa. This article could use some expansion, more specifics, clarification, and general cleanup. I hope to contribute to this effort. I think we definately need to list some verifiable references.

I am not sure about the structure of the last paragraph of the Integrated plants section. It seems like it should really be written more from a historical standpoint. For example, talking more about the economic struggles, slow decline, downsizing, and ultimate failure in some cases, of the major integrated mills (I can speak for the U.S., at least) during the last two decades. It reads more like a current event as it is currently written, and may or may not be accurate in the future. And there should definately be some references to back up the statments. There really could be a section dedicated to the history of steel mills, as Andrewa alludes to.

This topic is of particular interest to me, as my work is involved with the steel industry. --KeithB 04:09, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

The work about Mini-mills is very interesting, but for any kind of academic work the wikipedia can only be useful if the reference to a book is given. If anyone knows about a good book/article reference concerning types of steel plants and their advantages and disadvantages, then post them here, please. Thank you in advance. Michael, non-reg. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.115.98.233 (talk) 16:15, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

How to improve this article?

As most of the articles dealing with the steel industry on the English Wikipedia, this article is mixing some topics. It has no clear difference with steel making article.

Today, a steel mill is only the plant which produces semi-finished casting products, from pig iron and/or from scraps. It operates converters or electric arc furnaces, some secondary metallurgy tools, and a continuous casting (sometimes a ingot casting).

It seems necessary to focus on this aspect. Blast furnaces produce pig iron, rolling mills produce bars or coils. Of course, many old books make the confusion between ironworks (i.e. puddling/fining furnaces) and steel mills (i.e. converter). And simplification leads often to call blast furnaces, or steel mills, the complete steel industry.

So, I propose to define precisely the modern meaning of steel mill, and then to focus on its modern definition, i.e. converting or electric furnaces smelting, alloying tools and casting semi-finished steel products.

Borvan53 (talk) 19:18, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

liquid iron?

Also, in atempting to improve this article, PLEASE differentiate between liquid iron and liquid cast iron, which are different things and which are only liquid at very different temperatures.

Riventree (talk) 19:52, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

Disambiguation page?

Shouldn't there be a disambiguation page to steer people towards https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steel_Mill about the early Bruce Springsteen rock band? 84.13.116.220 (talk) 12:05, 18 December 2016 (UTC)

I don't think it is necessary to create a disambiguation page for three articles. Although the difference between Steel Mill (album) and Steel Mill is not clear. Borvan53 (talk) 10:23, 7 June 2017 (UTC)