Talk:Stem, North Carolina
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population
editthere ARE NOT 32,789,229 people, 53,493 households, and 6389 families residing in Stem. someone please fix this. there are 229 people and no stoplights. thanks. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.183.6.21 (talk) 02:12, 4 April 2007 (UTC).
External link
editI'm building a Web site about Stem. If you'd consider it as a possible external link, I'd appreciate it. The URL is: http://stemneighbors.com
Removed entry regarding 1936 men's basketball team defeating UNC-Chapel Hill
editThe following entry was removed from the Stem, NC entry:
In 1936, the members of Stem High School basketball team defeated the college team of the University of North Carolina Tar Heels in Chapel Hill. Coach Pegram of Stem promised his boys that if they won the Granville County championship he would take them to see a college game. Stem proceeded to defeat Creedmoor, Wilton, Berea, and Oak Hill, for the county title. Coach Pegram took his team to see UNC and Wake Forest University play, but a snowstorm prevented Wake Forest from making it to Chapel Hill. Coach Pegram offered to play the UNC team because there were fans waiting to see a game. UNC loaned Stem some uniforms and Stem proceeded to defeat the team from UNC. This victory is still remembered by many Granvillians. Members of the team were, William Royster, Sidney Ingold, Paul Jenkins, Wallace Bowling, Brent Meadows, Thaxton Freeman, and Archie Lee King.
This entry, as written, is demonstrably false. From UNC's "The Daily Tar Heel" archives, UNC was scheduled to host Wake Forest on January 7, 1936[1].
UNC defeated Wake Forest 26-19 on January 7, 1936.[2]
The 2nd time UNC faced Wake Forest in 1936 was at Wake Forest (and thus could not be the game referenced in the entry). UNC defeated Wake Forest 32-23 on February 4, 1936.[3]
If the story is true, the year is incorrect or UNC's scheduled opponent is incorrect. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Burnsidegen (talk • contribs) 13:20, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
On July 28, IP 99.182.43.45 made changes to the talk page:
In 1936, the members of Stem High School basketball team defeated the college team of the University of North Carolina Tar Heels in Chapel Hill. Coach Pegram of Stem promised his boys that if they won the Granville County championship he would take them to see a college game. Stem proceeded to defeat Creedmoor, Wilton, Berea, and Oak Hill, for the county title. Coach Pegram took his team to see UNC and Davidson play, but a snowstorm or flu outbreak prevented Davidson from making it to Chapel Hill. Coach Pegram offered to play the UNC team because there were fans waiting to see a game. UNC loaned Stem some uniforms and Stem proceeded to defeat the team from UNC. This victory is still remembered by many Granvillians. Members of the team were, William Royster, Sidney Ingold, Paul Jenkins, Wallace Bowling, Brent Meadows, Thaxton Freeman, and Archie Lee King.
There is at the moment no source for the original story or the new version. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Burnsidegen (talk • contribs) 12:44, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
Found some corroboration of the revised story. The Davidson @ UNC basketball game scheduled for February 12, 1936 was postponed due to an influenza outbreak. [4] However, the newspaper does not mention anything about a high school basketball team playing against the UNC team. The UNC team is reported as having spent the day of the scheduled Davidson game practicing for their upcoming game against NC State [5] The UNC @ NC State basketball game scheduled for February 14, 1936 was also called off due to an influenza outbreak. There is as yet no independent source stating that the Stem High School basketball team defeated (or even played against) the UNC basketball team. This should remain off the main entry until an independent source can be found. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Burnsidegen (talk • contribs) 13:03, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
This story was taken from direct interviews of player Brent Meadows. There was a story in the News and Observer that was published in November 2000. That backs this up? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.182.43.45 (talk) 01:06, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
I was able to find the article in the archives and bought a copy. For future reference it is Barnett, Ned "Did high school hoopsters humble mighty Heels?" The News & Observer [Raleigh] 26 November 2000: A1. Print. There is also an article by Frank Newell of the Warren Record, but their archive system is not as robust as the N&O's, so I will need to try and get to a library in Vance County and find a copy of it. For now, I think that this is enough to include the story in main page, but with the caveat that there are still no independent sources to verify that it occurred. Summary of the archived article below:
Summary of "Did high school hoopsters humble mighty Heels?" - Interview with Brent Meadows (83 years old in 2000, deceased July 24, 2013), at the time the last surviving member of the Stem High School basketball team alleged to have defeated the UNC - Chapel Hill basketball team in an impromptu game. The five players from Stem are alleged to be Brent Meadows, Wallace Bowling, Thomas Farabow, Clyde Cates, and James "Bunk" Guthrie. The year is alleged to be 1936 and the intended UNC opponent is alleged to be Davidson, and snow is alleged to be the cause of the cancellation of the UNC/Davidson game. There was a game that was a game scheduled against Davidson that was canceled due to an influenza outbreak on February 12, 1936. At that time, "Bunk" Guthrie would have been 22 years old (and 4 years out of Stem High School). The Stem team was disqualified from the 1934 county tournament for using ineligible players, so this does not necessarily mean that "Bunk" Guthrie did not still play occasionally with the team. Brent Meadows goes on to recount his recollection of the game, which he alleges they won by a point in dramatic fashion. There are no contemporaneous sources given that mention the game. The three living UNC players from the 1935-1937 teams do not recall such a game taking place. Frank Newell, who wrote the first article about the game in 1999 for the Warren Record, was convinced that it took place and the outcome was similar to what Meadows recalled.
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