Talk:Step (Kara album)

Merger proposal

I propose merging Step (Kara song) into this article. The song article looks kind of long, but a lot of the information repeats what's on the album article and a lot is excessive detail about teasers and such, which needs to be removed regardless. What's left is very little information. The material would be better served being discussed in this article instead, to fill out the album article better. Most songs fail song notability requirements, and per WP:SONGS, most songs should not have standalone articles, so merging is best here. Please share your comments. Shinyang-i (talk) 04:53, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

• Strongest possible oppose. The song is notable. "Step" was a big hit and is extremely notable, the article is a nice lengthy article. Why would anyone want to destroy it? Moreover, if you redirect it, you will prevent people from expanding it in the future. You will deny Wikipedia the opportunity to grow. --14:01, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

• Please don't use inflammatory language like "destroy" in your opinion. Taking info from one article and merging it into another is not destroying anything. And if this one little song is worth your "strongest possible oppose", I'd hate to see what kind of reaction something that actually matters in the world gets from you. If you think the song is notable, provide some evidence by showing it received significant discussion as a piece of music (not just a ton of details about promotional day-by-day minutiae courtesy of allkpop) in multiple reliable sources independent of the artist. But beyond that, the problem with this (and nearly all kpop song) articles, is that most of its content is already in the album article. Just a few details differ. Are both the song and the album really notable independently of each other? The same picture is even on both articles - that's how inseparable they are. I'm going to go trim out the unsourced, non-POV, and trivial details from the article and we'll see what's left. Maybe you're right, so we'll just see. Shinyang-i (talk) 15:48, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
• And I'm back. After removing all of the unsourced claims, excessive POV language, excessive details about teasers and exactly which dates which music show awards were won, references to music charts not allowed by WP:CHARTS, links violating WP:ELOFFICIAL, and so on, the only things different between the two articles are the one sentence about composition of the "Step" song and the rather generic music video description. All other content is the same, and most of it's word-for-word identical: release and background, external links, cover image, promotion, charts. Big hit or not, what on Earth could you possibly add to the song article that can't be said just as easily in the album article? Shinyang-i (talk) 16:10, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

• Support. I see no reason why these articles shouldn't be merged. There is a lot of overlap between them and they are both short. Even if the song article was expanded, I still think they should be merged because there isn't much information about the album. Merging the redirecting the song article doesn't "prevent people from expanding it in the future". It can be just as easily expanded as part of the album article. Random86 (talk) 23:30, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

• Merge The article is short and does not have enough information. HĐ (talk) 11:04, 28 April 2015 (UTC) Keep neutral. Simon (talk) 11:03, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

• Support merge I agree most of the info is redundant and merging it will not prevent future elaboration. In contrast, the merging will make it more organized. Even though the song article is lengthy, that is not a strong reason to keep it. It should be quality vs quantity. The info contained in the separate song entry can easily be included in its own section within the album entry. Betsuni (talk) 19:00, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

Agreed and  Done Klbrain (talk) 21:23, 30 September 2017 (UTC)