Talk:Stephen Curry/Archive 1
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Team USA
Stephen Curry Played a amzing role with Team USA in the summer of 2010. He won gold medal in Turkey during the 2010 FIBA World Championships. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheHappiestCritic (talk • contribs) 05:33, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
Merge infoboxes?
Maybe merge infoboxes? The "Career highlights and awards" section for NBA players are usually used for college awards, too. --Edgars2007 (Talk/Contributions) 07:23, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
Looking for someone to nominate this article for GA status
Does anyone else think this article is up to GA status?--Bigpoliticsfan (talk) 00:47, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
Removed the part that said he almost recorded a quadruple double with 27 points, 14 assists, 8 rebounds and 7 steals. That is not almost a quad-double, and is redundant. 99.247.3.143 (talk) 17:29, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 13 June 2014
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In looking at the "Junior Season" section of Curry's Collegiate career, I found that it contains the following text: "They did, however, receive the sixth seed in the 2009 NIT as a constellation prize."
I am requesting that the word "constellation" be changed to "consolation".
150.137.2.91 (talk) 00:30, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
Partly done: Nice catch. "Consolation" sounded to flowery for an encyclopedia, so I reworded to "Instead, they received the sixth seed in the 2009 NIT. "—Bagumba (talk) 01:04, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
International Career
I've noticed that the information in the International Career category is severely lacking. I mean only 1 line for two FIBA World Championships (now the World Cup)? We need to elaborate on what role he played in those 2 FIBA World Championships (or World Cups), cause he played a significant role in each one, especially 2014. Thanks, StephenCurry30Fan (talk) 18:22, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 10 February 2015
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Please add as follows under Stephen Curry's Personal Life at the very end: Curry announced via Instagram in January 2015 that him and his wife are expecting their second child in July 2015.
DSR7767 (talk) 07:28, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made.—Bagumba (talk) 07:37, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
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Parodies
In 2014, Drake's song, "0 to 100/The Catch Up" featured a stand-out line about Stephen Curry. He raps, “I been Steph Curry with the shot, been cookin’ wit the sauce, chef Curry with the pot boy”. Stephen Curry and his wife, Ayesha Curry heard the track and paid homage by creating a parody video on Ayesha Curry's YouTube Channel. The video, titled "Chef Curry With The Pot", plays on this line. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjU7BYcJwIw. The video went viral and currently has almost 1,300,000 views, including many positive comments. Drake acknowledged the video, posting it to his Instagram with the caption "Ayesha and Steph cooking with the pot! Ayesha snapped on the flow. #ChefCurry #WayUp" https://instagram.com/p/wOam1-DQF4/ Nessareanna (talk) 02:48, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. —
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Untitled
Comments about the career statistics: 1) the last row in the table should state "average" and not total. 2) The averages for field goals and 3pt field goals shouldn't be averages of the 3 season averages. It would make more sense to do a sum of all shots completed / attempted. That would be his true career field goal percentage.
I put this in comments both because it could be subject to debate and because I haven't done the totals myself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Atmchicago (talk • contribs) 19:35, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 1 April 2015
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138.238.231.98 (talk) 05:53, 1 April 2015 (UTC) young money cash money billionaires
- Not done: as you have not requested a specific change.
If you want to suggest a change, please request this in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ".
Please also cite reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 08:20, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
article class
Probably a B class or better, but i dont work on sports related articles, so cannot assign accurately. i gave it a C class as a minimum. page was a redirect by accident. now fixed. Go Warriors!Mercurywoodrose (talk) 05:47, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
- his bio is now one of the rotating bios at Portal:San Francisco Bay Area, a project i work on a lot.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 05:17, 6 June 2015 (UTC)
Reassessment
There was a request to reassess this article at WP NBA. I upgraded from C-class to B, though it was borderline for me if there were sufficient citations. I left as low importance for NBA project, as he hasn't played that many years yet nor achieved a significant honor like All-Star or All-NBA. Note there was a past discussion to use WikiProject NFL-like criteria for assessing importance of players.—Bagumba (talk) 22:45, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
Is it time to re-assess Curry's importance to the NBA project? He won MVP for the regular season, and if his Warriors go on to win the Finals he stands a good chance of winning Finals MVP as well. NBA champion sounds like a pretty significant honor, right? (He is also now a 2x All-Star.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:4898:80E8:EE31:0:0:0:2 (talk) 21:30, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
- It's currently assesses at "High", which is consistent with Wikipedia:WikiProject_National_Basketball_Association/Assessment#Importance_scale.—Bagumba (talk) 21:34, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 17 June 2015
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209.59.106.25 (talk) 20:57, 17 June 2015 (UTC) in 2015 curry becomes the mvp
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Amortias (T)(C) 21:38, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
Edit request
Please remove the African-Amercan categories because there are no reliable sources in the article to support them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.177.249.35 (talk) 17:12, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
Charity Work
Stephen Curry is a Board Member of Access to Success non-profit organization [1] 72.15.208.253 (talk) 19:54, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
- Unless it's reported by a reliable source that is independent, it's probably not notable enough to mention.—Bagumba (talk) 20:10, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
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Sources on shooting (for future reference)
I'm moving these citations that were cluttering the lead per WP:LEADCITE and WP:CITEKILL. Free free to use for further expansion.[1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9][10]—Bagumba (talk) 22:56, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
- Why not merge some of them, Bagumba? Also, thank you for laying them out here. Fdssdf (talk) 22:05, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
- Please read CITEKILL and/or discuss what you disagree with or don't understand. Unless the sources are used to expand the article text, we don't need an excessive number of cites for one sentence. I'm not volunteering to expand the article at this point, but you and others are more than welcome to. Cheers.—Bagumba (talk) 00:48, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
@Divergence5: You might not have been aware of this discussion when you reinserted the text on Curry being the greatest shooter into the lead. I have no objection to having some mention of the general opinion on his shooting ability in the lead; however, it doesn't need 10 citations there when it is already supported at Stephen_Curry#Player_profile.—Bagumba (talk) 02:50, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
References
- ^ Littmann, Chris. "Kevin Durant calls Stephen Curry 'best shooter ever to play'". Sporting News. Retrieved 18 January 2016.
- ^ Dewey, Todd. "NBA legends say Stephen Curry is the best shooter of all time". Las Vegas Review-Journal. Retrieved 18 January 2016.
- ^ "Bird says he, Curry, Mullin among NBA's greatest shooters ever". Retrieved 18 January 2016.
- ^ Miron, Danny. "The Statistical Case For Steph Curry As Best Shooter of All-Time". Sports Quotient. Retrieved 18 January 2016.
- ^ Pantorno, Joe. "Fred Hoiberg Says Stephen Curry Might Be 'Best Shooter of All Time'". bleacher report. Retrieved 18 January 2016.
- ^ "Celtics' Ainge: Stephen Curry, not Larry Bird, is best shooter ever". Fox Sports. Retrieved 18 January 2016.
- ^ "NBA Shootaround: Get Your Brooms Ready". Grantland.com. May 25, 2015. Retrieved May 27, 2015.
- ^ "Is Steph Curry The Best Shooter Ever? Yes, Say Many of NBA's All-Time Marksmen". Bleacherreport.com. June 1, 2015. Retrieved June 1, 2015.
- ^ Lowe, Zach (June 8, 2015). "Making Sense of the Madness in Game 2 of the NBA Finals". Grantland.com. Retrieved June 8, 2015.
- ^ Bill Simmons (December 4, 2015). "Ep. 34: NBA + NFL Picks w/ Joe House". SoundCloud.com (Podcast). Event occurs at 38:02. Retrieved December 7, 2015.
"Off the Court" = Off the Page
I noticed that the section of biographies usually labeled "Personal..whatever" was instead titled "Off the Court." I found the same thing @ Blake Griffin and changed both to "Personal Life." "Off the Court" is 1) informal language and 2) an attempt to make the article 'distinctive,' with a hint of 'branding.' The fact that it appears in more than one related article indicates a possibility that someone is being paid/hired to manage these articles. All excellent reasons to 'revert' to the standard format. Tapered (talk) 22:23, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
- Or it could be as innocent as the editors are basketball fans who don't realize it's informal, or they patterned it after an FA like Magic Johnson.—Bagumba (talk) 22:30, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
- Hey, Tapered. I don't particularly care what those headers say (I suppose I'm for "Personal life") but if you change headers, make sure you don't capitalize every word. So if you change "Off the court" to "Personal life", make sure you don't make the l in life a capital letter. I corrected this at the Blake Griffin article. —DangerousJXD (talk) 22:33, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
New records to be included
Longest game-streak with at least one 3-pointer: 129 (ongoing) Most 3-pointers in a game (with Kobe and Donyell): 12
They should be included in the lower highlights section — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.135.158.39 (talk) 07:31, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
- Done. DaHuzyBru (talk) 09:12, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
- THX. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.135.158.39 (talk) 10:17, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
Picture caption
There is a wrong caption under the picture which says "Curry during his MVP season in 2015-16". It should be 2014-15 season. Please correct.Yunyiyang (talk) 06:07, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
- Fixed. —DangerousJXD (talk) 07:24, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
Greatest 3-pt shooter or just greatest shooter?
@Divergence5: You added to the lead that Curry is "is considered by some to be the greatest three-point shooter in NBA history". That seems more restrictive than what sources generally say, and what is stated currently at Stephen_Curry#Player_profile: "Many basketball analysts, commentators, and current and former players consider Curry to be the greatest shooter of all-time." He's generally called the greatest shooter, not just 3-pt shooter, and it's probably (at least) a generally held opinion as opposed to just by some.—Bagumba (talk) 03:09, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
@Bagumba: I think 3-pt shooter is more accurate. There are many players in the league who are better 2-pt shooters. —Divergence5 (talk) 03:25, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
- As I tried to nicely say here, I think the recent changes to the lead have been completely unnecessary and not entirely productive. The lead has always only said shooter. The lead should say "shooter" only because "shooter" is what sources say. Nearly all of the references listed after the sentence say "shooter" in the title. If they all said "three-point shooter", then the lead should say "three-point shooter", but that's not the case. It's also not opinion. With all these sources, the sentence belongs in the lead. Ten sources after one sentence, however, is silly and it should be changed back to what it was originally (2-4 sources after the sentence and more in other parts of article). "three-point shooter" may be more accurate or specific but again it should say what sources say and sources discuss all around shooting (any jump shot). Those sources don't talk about there being better two-point shooters; that's opinion. I also doubt these better players are better shooters than Curry and layups or whatever are a different story. That's not what sources would say. Obviously, the definition of "shooter" includes three-point shooting so it's not at all wrong to say shooter. There's seems to only be one editor who thinks the sentence shouldn't be there at all but it looks to me that they removed it because there was no sources there. This is a stupid thing to debate. One thing for sure is that ten sources in one spot is stupid. In short, say "shooter" only because it better reflects what sources say, and only include around 4 sources after the sentence. The wording of MVPs and championships can go any old how and mention of family is appropriate because without it the leads gives nothing on personal life. —DangerousJXD (talk) 04:21, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
- I agree. The WP:WEIGHT of sources say he is the greatest shooter. It's WP:OR to apply our own criteria of other two-point shooters to discount or restrict what sources generally say. —Bagumba (talk) 06:22, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
- I have removed duplicate references, and spread out the references so they aren't all in one place. I think how it is now is fine. If you still want to argue about "shooter" "three-point shooter" wording, then go ahead. —DangerousJXD (talk) 05:01, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
- I'll just WP:CITEBUNDLE the ones left in the lead and be done with this.—Bagumba (talk) 07:16, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
Divergence5 has reverted back to "greatest three-point shooter", even though there was no consensus for that. I will await discussion to see if there is there is any new support.—Bagumba (talk) 01:43, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
- That's why I reverted. With edits having so far been disagreed with, reverting without any further discussion is questionable. Divergence5, I suggest at least talking it out a little more, not wildly reverting, rereading what's already been said by others here and in the page history, and remaining civil. No needs for ALL CAPS yelling. I reckon I thoroughly addressed everything in my lengthy post above so I have nothing more to add right now. —DangerousJXD (talk) 01:55, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
- Yeah, I was composing my post when you reverted.—Bagumba (talk) 02:06, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
Divergence5, at it again hey? What's with the long breaks before making the same edits again and again that have been disputed by at least three people? The "superior" wording change in particular is clearly edit warring against consensus to get your preferred wording. The latest batch of small changes is simply unnecessary. —DangerousJXD (talk) 21:33, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
- I have gone ahead and reverted it again. DaHuzyBru (talk) 03:48, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
- Note: Divergence5 has posted at my talk page and I have directed them to post anything further here. —DangerousJXD (talk) 04:07, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
- Another note: Divergence5 has now expressed his satisfaction for the newest revision of the lead on my talk page. —DangerousJXD (talk) 22:30, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
- I have gone ahead and reverted it again. DaHuzyBru (talk) 03:48, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
Height and Weight
The current version of the page lists Curry's height and weight to be 4 ft 3 in (1.3m) and 2 lbs (1 kg). That doesn't seem right...Robotsy (talk) 03:30, 31 March 2016 (UTC)
- @Robotsy: Reverted already. Babymissfortune 03:43, 31 March 2016 (UTC)
3 Point Record
I think that one should add the comparison that the equivalent of 402 three-pointers is 103 home runs in a MLB season. [2] Gac25 (talk) 17:17, 19 April 2016 (UTC)gac25 gac25 (talk
- While a nice comparison, it is straight up trivial and irrelevant. Gregor Aisch and Kevin Quealy have written a good article, but that is where stuff like that belongs, not on Wikipedia. DaHuzyBru (talk) 19:19, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
- Absolutely not. The comparison doesn't make sense because you are comparing 2 different sports. Tybomb124 (talk), 19:19, 11 June 2016. (UTC.)
Semi-protected edit request on 24 April 2016
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Please create a new tab discussing Stephen Curry's Impact on the 3 point shooting of the NBA. NBA teams have slowly been shooting more and more 3 point field goals. Stephen Curry is changing the way the 3 point shot is looked at. It wasn't until 2014 that the league average peaked 20 3 point attempts per game, that number has continued to grow to 23.7 in 2016. Curry has shot the deep ball more than anyone in that time, this season he has attempted 886 3 pointers, 229 more than the next player James Harden who shot 657. Of the 886 3 point shots Curry put up, he made 402 for a percentage of 45.4%. He was the first NBA leading scorer to average more 3 point attempts than 2 point attempts. Curry set the record for 3 pointers in a season with his 402, obliterating his old record of 286. With the rise in 3 point shooting, Curry has taken advantage more than any other player, in the 2015-16 season he had 7 games with 9+ 3 pointers made, no other player in NBA history has more than 5 such games in their entire career. Curry is not only shooting and making more 3s than anyone, he's taking them from much deeper, in the 2015-16 season he made 21 shots from 30 feet and beyond, no other player has more than 3. With numbers rising for attempts per game, and players percentages going up as well there is no sign of the 3 point rate slowing down, led by Steph Curry and his unheard of ability to shoot the 3 point shot. Ahush13 (talk) 18:31, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
- The article contains plenty of information on Curry's shooting; another section discussing it would be unnecessary. The article really covers all significant records and such. —DangerousJXD (talk) 21:21, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
NBA MVP official?
I saw that Steph's 2nd MVP award wasn't edited onto the Wikipedia article (it's not the infobox, nor is it in his career highlights.) Is this just a mistake, or has it been changed due to the award being unofficial? I've updated both the infobox and his career highlights just in case. HandIsNotNookls (talk) 14:40, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
- Why do we need to jump the gun? He has not been officially named the MVP. Wikipedia is not the associated press or a rumor mill. What do we gain by adding the MVP information prematurely? Lets wait until the NBA announces it, easy. Per Anne M. Peterson of nba.com, "with the announcement coming as early as Tuesday." It will likely be announced very soon. DaHuzyBru (talk) 14:57, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
Stephen Curry 2nd MVP (unanimous)
Please add the fact that Stephen Curry has won his second MVP (back to back) joining Steve Nash (x2) and Magic Johnson (x3) for the only point guards to win the MVP award more then once. He is also the first ever player to be unanimously voted MVP in NBA history receiving 131 first place votes. [3]
- It has been done. DaHuzyBru (talk) 17:03, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 17 May 2016
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Adding that Stephen Curry was the NBA Skills Challenge champion (2011) in the list of career highlights and awards would be nice. You guys do mention it in a later article, but it's not in the initial list of his achievements in the NBA, and I think adding that in there would be a good idea. Thank you. 64.61.32.50 (talk) 15:22, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
- Per Wikipedia:NBASTYLE, NBA Skills Challenge does not go in the infobox. It is, however, listed in the article's NBA career highlights section. DaHuzyBru (talk) 15:43, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
Ayesha Curry
I personally think that Ayesha Curry should have her own article rather than being a redirect/section here. I believe that the amount of media coverage she gets and her projects warrant inclusion in her own right. However, I did not want to make this change on my own without having a discussion about it. What does everyone think? AtlasBurden (talk) 13:54, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
- What exactly makes her specifically notable other than being a personality on social media? Her notability derives from her relationship to Stephen. I think an "Ayesha Curry" article would certainly be nominated for AfD, and I don't think you'd be able to find too many reliable secondary sources that discuss Ayesha and not Stephen. Would Ayesha meet WP:GNG? One could argue no. DaHuzyBru (talk) 15:10, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
Turnovers in his second college game
It's worth mentioning he had only 3 turnovers in his second game, compared to the 13 in his first. http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/players/60800/gamelog — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.44.254.10 (talk) 02:30, 16 September 2016 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 14 October 2016
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דאוסון המלך (talk) 18:13, 14 October 2016 (UTC) Curry is the best basketball player in the world. He has two mvp awards and won the NBA title once in 2015.
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. -- ferret (talk) 18:23, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
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"NBA record for most three-pointers made in a game (12 – tied with Kobe Bryant and Donyell Marshall)"
should be changed to:
"NBA record for most three-pointers made in a game (13)"
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74.114.172.140 (talk) 18:32, 24 November 2016 (UTC)stephen curry just broke the record for most 3 pointers made in a game 13/17
- Not done This was already posted to the article. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 18:37, 24 November 2016 (UTC)
Stephen Curry
You need to add 4 x3-pt field goal leader to Stephen Curry StephenCurry2 (talk) 12:51, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
- @StephenCurry2: You can find that info in the "Awards and honors" section. DaHuzyBru (talk) 13:49, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 13 January 2017
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Stephoun wardull Curree is a soccer player you guys need to get get your facts straight, he plays for the california angels. Jesus gary 204.184.139.60 (talk) 17:29, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. - Mlpearc (open channel) 17:32, 13 January 2017 (UTC)