Talk:Stephen Tong

Latest comment: 1 month ago by 139.0.201.127 in topic Bad link and non-existent organization

Cleanup and tone issues

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Please note that Living Persons issues and the WP:BLP policy for Wikipedia are such NB Wikipedia biographies are not meant to be hagiographies! if you dont have a ref- it shouldnt be there - also as an online encylopedia the style and manner of info - the article needs editing and not adding to - please read WP:MOS carefully SatuSuro 08:32, 25 July 2008 (UTC)Reply

I second the concern about the tone issues. Is there an editor currently working on the article who is willing to source some of the more, um, expansive claims and bring the language in tone with WP:NPOV? The article should be editing before more is added to it. Further expansion can take place after there is a good encyclopedic base to build upon. Movingboxes (talk) 05:16, 8 August 2008 (UTC)Reply

I've copyedited the article and tried to clean out as much NPOV as I could. There were whole paragraphs that were copy-pasted from his church profiles! Those are now either gone or heavily edited with sources. AngusWOOF (talk) 23:35, 15 November 2012 (UTC)Reply

STTRII confusion

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I took out this section as it is confusing. Is STTRII a high school, a seminary, or both? Which was the one that moved into RMCI? Are there TWO STTRII institutions now?

In 1991, with them, he also founded the Indonesia Evangelical Reformed Theological High School or well-known by name Sekolah Tinggi Teologia Reformed Injili Indonesia [STTRII] in South Jakarta. The goal is to promote full-time servant of God with spirit and knowledge of Reformed theology and can be sent to other churchs and hopefully influence them with right doctrine. He had become rector for 11 years (1991-2002)">"Pdt. Dr. Stephen Tong". GRII (in Indonesian). Retrieved 2012-11-26.</ref>.

Please provide clearer sources for this. Also the mission statement needs to be sourced. It is not mentioned in GRII.org. AngusWOOF (talk) 15:51, 29 November 2012 (UTC)Reply

largest Christian facilities

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Can someone provide a media source that states that RMCI is one of the largest Christian facilities in the world? The article posted says it is one of the largest Chinese Christian/Evangelical churches (outside China), and that it is a mega-church, but does not generalize to the general Christian community. AngusWOOF (talk) 17:37, 31 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

English cleanup

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In the list of publications, the last entry under the section on courses has the English title "Faith, Ratio, and Knowledge." "Ratio" translates "Rasio." "Rasio" frequently means "ratio," but that meaning does not fit the context of the title. The English word should be "Reason," I think. But someone with good knowledge of Indonesian needs to check it.Vpoythress (talk) 12:56, 20 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

Bad ISBN

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Because it is causing a Checkwiki error #72: "ISBN-10 with wrong checksum", I removed the ISBN from the entry:

Keluarga Bahagia (Happy Family) 1991 ISBN 979-8307-22-9 Parameter error in {{ISBN}}: checksum

I have tried unsuccessfully to locate the correct ISBN on the Internet. Knife-in-the-drawer (talk) 16:18, 23 May 2015 (UTC)Reply

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The one link is no longer valid and the domain is listed for sale for the link under his institutions to his “Reformed Institute for Christianity and the 21st Century in Washington DC”. After further research on the WayBack Machine, the domain was not renewed sometime in early 2017. Another link appeared to a WordPress website for a school seminar series in July 2017 (link: [1]http://reformedinstitute.wordpress.com), but this Wordpress site is not updated either. See the link in the WayBack machine for this connection: [2]https://web.archive.org/web/20170927175931/http://reformedinstitute.com/. This may or may not be an entirely valid link to the previous organization, since the website appeared to go down in previous internet archives.

Further research does not yield any information about this organization, so I edited this entry to show that either the organization is defunct or non existent at this time or it has completely changed to something else but there are no records or evidence to be able to show this same organization is still active and continuous from the previous organization.

If anyone can find verifiable information, please add. Also help with editing for Wiki standards. 139.0.201.127 (talk) 03:24, 28 September 2024 (UTC)Reply