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Alias Controversy
editIs David Lucas an alias for Steven Blum or not? ~ Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 20:36, 2005 August 7 (UTC)
It is. At a con, Blum talked about doing both seasons of Big-O, even though the first season is credited to Lucas.
However, this is something that fans and journalists in the anime industry who wish to be respectful of the English voice actor's situations never directly allude to because by revealing the relationships between aliases, it may cause problems for them with the Screen Actors Guild. A little bit of history: Some voice over/dub studios do not have the financial means to pay the union rates for SAG actors, so they are forced to work with non-union actors. However, all SAG actors like to work and will choose to do non-union work, but do it under a name that's not registered with SAG. The studios agree to work under these situations because they'll then get good quality dubs that way, and will never say that so and so is actually a different, SAG-affiliated so and so. The fans accept it because they'd rather see the good quality dubs, too. -TLS
If you goto IMDB's site on him[1] he's listed also as Lucas. Also see RottenTomatoes[2] - Left side says "AKA Steven Blum, David Lucas". Thirdly Eikichi Onizuka from Great Teacher Onizuka english voice is credited to David Lucas - and I know thats the same voice as Spike Spiegel from Cowboy Bebop which is credited to Steven Jay Blum. - ShakataGaNai
- so i merged the articles already. we know he's him because he's with the sac now.
He Who Claims To Be Him
edit- I checked on the IP of that post on main article. http://www.showmyip.com/nl/?ip=66.75.79.135 and it goes out to Woodland Hills, CA. I t is also the only user contribution associated with that IP. Hmm... Sweetfreek 20:10, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
why are you listing steve blum's alisas? He's gona get in trouble now. Good job moron
Alright so, do we keep the information up if it risks Steven Blum losing his SAG position?--155.246.15.34 05:41, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
Geico Commercial
editUnless I'm mistaken, its not Steven Blum who is in the Geico commercial, it's James Urbaniak.
- I added a verification needed tag. I can't find any source to verify his roles in either supposed commercials.209.0.48.138 09:41, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
- While I don't generally trust all that I read from LiveJournal, I did find this [3]. In addition, I couldn't find ANYTHING about Blum doing Gieco commercials that wasn't a copy of WP. So I removed it. --ShakataGaNai 18:49, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
- Well if you're talkin about him as the Geico gecko, that never happened. I think there was one with a cat on a cereal box or somethin for Geico... not sure if it aired though...or if that was him haha —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.225.141.13 (talk) 04:00, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Marcus Fenix
editIt says in the article that he voices Marcus in Gears of War, but John DiMaggio is also credited with the role. Who is it?
DiMaggio--Plankton5005 02:30, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
Blum was originally cast for the role but DiMaggio was later brought in instead.
notable roles
editJust thought someone should know that under notable roles it says a bunch of Ben 10 characters are from Cowboy Bebop.
Template
editI removed the template since most it's info. is in the article
"Not to be confused with."
editRemoved the sentence "He is not to be confused with another Steven Blum who is primarily involved in crew work, having done work on shows such as the U.S. version of Whose Line Is It Anyway?, as well as Attack of the Show! and X-Play."
As it is off-topic, irrelevant, and has nothing to do with Steven Blum the voice actor directly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.56.245.170 (talk) 19:16, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
Lead Clean-up
edit- The sentence "His voice as Wolverine in the X-Men Legends games and Marvel Ultimate Alliance" is improper. Just as well, this information should be limited to his role credits. Legends already exists, as does Ultimate Alliance. Removed sentence from lead. His work as Wolverine in these titles is not more newsworthy than similar game credits.
- Anyone want to consider whether the notes regarding TOM and 7-Eleven are important enough to take lead space?
- I wouldn't consider those roles as lead worthy. Im suprised that his role as Spike in Cowboy Bebop isn't there. Was always one of his more notable roles. Showers (talk) 01:04, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
- Good point. "Spike" is a commodity, so I'd venture to write that credit up on the lead, however I'm not sure if this should be integrated now or with a complete re-write at a later date. We could remove TOM and 7-Eleven right away, but his lead is already incredibly sparse. I was going record Blum's page as a spoken word entry, but we don't list credits in audio. A sentence or two is a waste of recording space. Soo... --BlueArctos (talk) 01:29, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
- I agree. Personally I would claim that his most notable role by far is Spike. However, assertions that Mugen is more well known are not without merit. I would remove/shorten the information about Wolverine and replace it with information about Spike; perhaps changing "He is best known as the voice of Mugen of the anime series Samurai Champloo." to "Two of his most popular roles are that of Spike Spiegel, from the anime series Cowboy Bebop and Mugen, from the anime Samurai Champloo." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.82.69.186 (talk) 20:45, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
- Good point. "Spike" is a commodity, so I'd venture to write that credit up on the lead, however I'm not sure if this should be integrated now or with a complete re-write at a later date. We could remove TOM and 7-Eleven right away, but his lead is already incredibly sparse. I was going record Blum's page as a spoken word entry, but we don't list credits in audio. A sentence or two is a waste of recording space. Soo... --BlueArctos (talk) 01:29, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
Succession Box?
editIs it standard to have one of these sitting at the very bottom of the page? Seems out of place. --BlueArctos (talk) 01:33, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
- Yeah, it's pretty standard. Showers 23:11, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
Article Expansion Suggestions
editSomeone should consider including information from the various interviews with Blum available online. There's good stuff out there. I suggest An Interview Regarding the Digimon Series, A Transcribed Interview with Beau Billingslea and Steve Blum from PlayOnline, and An Insomniac Mania Interview with Steve Blum. Come on out, you dedicated fans! Just keep it wiki.
"Aliases" Section
editThe small paragraph follows: "For several years, Blum has used several pseudonyms in non-union productions, the most commonly-known being David Lucas. Blum actively denied that he and Lucas are the same person, stating instead that they are acquaintances. As of 2004, he has unionized and now uses his real name full time." I have no idea what this paragraph means. This needs to be re-written so that someone who has never heard of Steven Blum(myself included) has enough context to make sense of it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.202.38.225 (talk) 04:14, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
Dirge of Cerberus: Final Fantasy VII
editI was just wondering if there is a reason why "Dirge of Cerberus: Final Fantasy VII" and "Final Fantasy VII: Dirge of Cerberus" are both listed under the video games section, seeing as they are the same game.
Thanks, Miles15 (talk) 06:06, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
No reason?
Okay then, I removed the second listing. :)
Roles
editI took out the dead or alive credits (since it's in the wrong section, Anime instead of Video Games, and since it looked like vandalism) and the Guild Wars Nightfall credit in the Video Games section since the male lead is not Steve Blum. From the voice, I would assert that it is Josh Keaton, but that's irrelevant. Also, Steve Blum is not credited for Nightfall. See the credits page on the official website. 130.18.211.201 (talk) 21:23, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
Roles Pt 2
editIs he going to be in Tom Clancy's H.A.W.X.? I thought I heard him on the trailer. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.60.228.119 (talk) 01:59, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
Roles Pt 3
editAccording to this video, he will be cast as Leeron in Gurren. Add it? 69.119.135.138 (talk) 19:17, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
Everquest 2
editI noticed he voiced over an NPC in everquest 2, i forget the npc name though...69.248.175.25 (talk) 17:27, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
Best known as...
editThe second sentence of the article states "He is best known as the voice of Mugen of the anime series Samurai Champloo." This can be regarded as untrue due to the fact that the first time his voice was exposed to a wide audience was in the first incarnation of [adult swim] in Cowboy Bebop as the main character Spike Spiegel. I believe the sentence should be changed to "He is best known as the voice of Spike Spiegel of the anime series Cowboy Bebop." Are there any reasons this should not be changed? 66.31.13.236 (talk) 00:27, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
Are there any reasons why it should be changed? The part about Cowboy Bebop is still there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.238.78.89 (talk) 22:30, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
Bionic Commando Demo
editIs that his voice as the matchmaking commentator?mcnichoj (talk) 09:01, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
Kopaka Nuva
editDid he do the voice of Kopaka Nuva in Bionicle: Mask of Light? because it lists him as one of the two voice actors of the character.
Did he somehow redub Kopaka's voice or is this not true? Philipnova798 (talk) 23:56, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
Deep Voice?
editMr. Blum has quite the vocal range. As Wolvie his voice is deep, but as Orochimaru and the Green Goblin he hits the high notes pretty well. I'd change it to reflect that. 173.180.75.13 (talk) 02:43, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
The Old Republic
editimdb (and the in-game credits as well, I believe) has the Male Bounty Hunter (Player) listed as Tom Spackman. I know a lot of people thought/assumed it was Blum, due to the gravelly quality of the voice, but I don't believe it is. Unless "Bounty Hunter" refers to a different bounty hunter. It's obviously conceivable that Blum voiced other non-named NPCs within the game, but I know of no reference to evidence that states such. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.92.27.173 (talk) 16:15, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
And the SWTOR credits show Blum only as Andronikos and Deathmark (credits screenshot) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.4.18.243 (talk) 15:19, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
Name of article?
editIsn't his common name/the name he's usually known as pretty much "Steve Blum"? Why is this article under Steven Blum? 98.145.12.124 (talk) 21:53, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
polygon article
editHas some info about Blum's thoughts on the video game industry. -AngusWOOF (talk) 01:14, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
Cleanup of "Filmography" indiscriminate database dump
editI have taken the bold action of removing the indiscriminate collection of roles/voices/appearance that Blum has appeared in. 90% of it is unsourced and does not show how the role is notable to the inclusion of Blum's career. Hasteur (talk) 23:35, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
I have no objection to adding (and not restoring) specific cited references of Blum's work where they show the relevance and notability to his career. Hasteur (talk) 23:36, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
- That's not true. 90% of this is sourced. Please read the table headers and the sources that are cited. If you want to question notability, then you can do that, but it does not lack sources. I haven't painfully gone through every entry here for nothing. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 23:38, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
- It is not. The Celberty Booking Tallent is/was his agent which is not valid as a independent reliable source. arlenethornton site is/was his agent so that discludes it as a reliable source. From what I can tell by looking at the first 5 credits, they're minor roles or tertiary roles. Most of the content is already contained in the Career section in prose. I would be amenable to listing those roles in a filmography section (or any role where he was in the top 2 tiers of "characters"). Anything else makes this page a IMDB dump. Hasteur (talk) 23:46, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
- The talent ones are listed in the upper corner per WP:SELFPUB. Of course citing a independent source is better, and if that exercise needs to be done, I will go through and add in the cite episodes. Each entry should be swept for whether he is playing major or minor characters, but it shouldn't be dumped completely. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 23:58, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
- SELFPUB can be used "as sources of information about themselves, usually in articles about themselves or their activities". Someone tweeting that they are participating in a show is not an extraordinary circumstance. (#1) Also, the article's biography section is not primarily based on such information and should not be. (#5). So I maintain that the filmography entries that do not have a specifically listed reference should be able to stay on those merits, plus that the actor includes the role in their one-page resume (I'm not counting the Jeff Zannini one) means it has relative importance. I will continue to find cite episodes and cite video games in the meantime. If you want to hack up anime filmographies, at least attack the
500385 TAGGED ones that have hardly any sourcing or effort done to source it, comment out the bulk of it, but tag citation needed on entries that are likely to be true but just require a decent citation. See WP:ANIME/BIO. And then prepare to deal with the consequences such as having the voice actor complain about it or his editor fans get pissed off at you until you get it restored and fixed. like HERE I'd be glad to not get the heat for actually bothering to improve the article. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 07:46, 18 October 2015 (UTC), updated 16:36, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
- SELFPUB can be used "as sources of information about themselves, usually in articles about themselves or their activities". Someone tweeting that they are participating in a show is not an extraordinary circumstance. (#1) Also, the article's biography section is not primarily based on such information and should not be. (#5). So I maintain that the filmography entries that do not have a specifically listed reference should be able to stay on those merits, plus that the actor includes the role in their one-page resume (I'm not counting the Jeff Zannini one) means it has relative importance. I will continue to find cite episodes and cite video games in the meantime. If you want to hack up anime filmographies, at least attack the
- The talent ones are listed in the upper corner per WP:SELFPUB. Of course citing a independent source is better, and if that exercise needs to be done, I will go through and add in the cite episodes. Each entry should be swept for whether he is playing major or minor characters, but it shouldn't be dumped completely. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 23:58, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
- AngusWOOF I wish to contest CrystalAcids as a Reliable source: [4] "Can I contribute to the CrystalAcids database? You sure can! Just visit the Submit Info page." This makes it User Submitted content and questionable. [5] gives no clue as to the "journalistic integrety" quotient and therefore makes it unreliable. For this reason I request that you remove it as a source. Hasteur (talk) 00:30, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
- CrystalAcids isn't user-submitted like IMDb and ANN. Please read the section where it says "How is CrystalAcids different from sites like ANN and IMDb?" in its FAQ [6] It says that users can suggest things, but it is controlled directly by the staff. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 00:41, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
- Look again Angus at the very next question... That's where I quoted from about "Can I contribute" also take a look at the page the link goes to [7]. That's user submitted content if I ever saw it. Hasteur (talk) 00:46, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
- Of course anyone can contribute or make suggestions. It doesn't mean they'll accept it blindly. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 02:32, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
- I agree with AngusWOOF. Getting rid of "minor roles" and whatnot shouldn't be applied anyway unless ALL voice actors are in the same circumstance. Lacon432 (talk) 23:45, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
- Of course anyone can contribute or make suggestions. It doesn't mean they'll accept it blindly. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 02:32, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
- Look again Angus at the very next question... That's where I quoted from about "Can I contribute" also take a look at the page the link goes to [7]. That's user submitted content if I ever saw it. Hasteur (talk) 00:46, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
- CrystalAcids isn't user-submitted like IMDb and ANN. Please read the section where it says "How is CrystalAcids different from sites like ANN and IMDb?" in its FAQ [6] It says that users can suggest things, but it is controlled directly by the staff. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 00:41, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
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Anime Roles need to be put back
editA number of his roles have been removed, despite him being listed as having worked on said shows under the list of characters for these shows. DreamsDreams (talk) 11:23, 11 September 2017 (UTC)DreamsDreams
- When were they removed? Are they supported by reliable sources? If it's in the opening paragraph, no, that should only be for his most important notable roles. If it's in his biography section it should be described in better detail rather than just being listed since that would be redundant with the filmography. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 16:47, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
I was going to add some roles that I noticed were missing, I discovered in the data for his roles, they were already there. They had "NEED NOTABILITY", written netxt to them. The issue here is, his roles under animation do conform to "major voice performances", and a lot of his roles under Anime could be considered unimportant as well as a lot do not even having any sources. DreamsDreams (talk) 10:38, 14 September 2017 (UTC)DreamsDreams
- Please see the talk threads prior to this as to why the filmography was trimmed down to major roles. See also Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Anime_and_manga/Archive_69#Inclusion_of_additional_voices_in_anime_voice_actor_articles AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 17:14, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
- A lot of the NEEDS NOTABILITY roles are also unreferenced, so they will require citations to add back, preferably to cite episode if the role is named. Otherwise it's likely to be additional voices. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 18:00, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
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Missing Role
editThe video game list appears to be missing Keiji Maeda from Samurai Warriors 1. — Preceding unsigned comment added by UnshotSpy (talk • contribs) 15:41, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
warcraft 3: TFT rexxar voice
edithe also voiced Rexxar in warcraft 3: TFT — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.12.82.45 (talk) 23:00, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
He was in FLCL as Masahi Masamune
editThis title is missing from his anime filmography. The source can be found on Funimation's website. FLCL just needs to be added somewhere in the 2000 range based on whenever it came out. Theironminer (talk) 19:20, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
- Then cite it. The time taken to write this message on the talk page could have been used to cite the role. Sk8erPrince (talk) 19:48, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
Missing role: Steve Blum voiced the Black Mage in Global version of MapleStory.
editSource: https://namu.wiki/w/%EA%B2%80%EC%9D%80%20%EB%A7%88%EB%B2%95%EC%82%AC (in Korean)(he is mentioned as the voice actor for Global version (GMS) TheStriker (talk) 15:38, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
Another missing role
editSteve Blum is also Sun Jian's voice in Dynasty Warriors 4 and 5. I always remember his voice for each game from these. The Cake is a Lie T / C 09:41, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
additional voices for incredibles 2
edithe was listed as additional voices on incredibles 2 according to imdb. check it on additional crew. 24.45.1.88 (talk) 04:29, 15 April 2023 (UTC)