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Notable roles
Little Miss Sunshine, no matter how good a movie you think it is, is not one of Carell's notable roles. He first acheived fame and success on The Daily Show, The 40-Year Old Virgin was a huge success with tons of ads and a much-talked about poster on which Carell is highly featured, and he won a Golden Globe for The Office. LMS, while having a large per-theatre gross, has only made $5.6 million and has barely been advertised. You, Me and Dupree has made 12.5 times more, and would anyone say that's a notable role for Owen Wilson, Kate Hudson, Matt Dillon or Michael Douglas? LMS is barely a blip on the notability radar- it doesn't matter if you think the movie sucks or rocks, it's not a notable part of Carell's career. His role in Anchorman is far more notable, but that also isn't included in the infobox. --TheTruthiness 04:38, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
- Truthiness, I must point out that Little Miss Sunshine:
- Had the highest P.T.A. gross for 16 days in a row.
- Is receiving a lot of free media in preparation for its wide release; i.e., Abigail Breslin (ain't she just cuter than cute) on the Leno show.
- Has received almost unanimous favorable critical acclaim.
- Is getting Oscar buzz (specifically, but limited to, Steve Carell).
- So I think that Carell's portrayal of Frank Hoover in L.M.S. is notable. It will be listed in the infobox sooner or later. The question is when? You seem to be a Wikipedian who has a significant interest in Carell's article, so I will leave it to you (and/or other Wikipedians) as to when to add it. --72.82.220.217 05:27, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, but I have to agree with User:TheTruthiness here. The film may be great, but it has not had mass appeal to an audience to be recognized as a notable role. He is still early in his career, and many of his roles are notable. Now when the film heads for wide release and Steve Carell's role becomes more well-known or he gets an Emmy for his role than it is likely it can be added. But it is not necessary to automatically assume that his role in this film is notable. --Nehrams2020 06:32, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
- Even then, the infobox is not meant to be a long filmography, it should be 2-3 roles only. So LMS would have to be more notable than another entry in the infobox to bump it out. As well, PTA isn't really relevant when it's in maybe 5% of theatres across the country, and only for 2 weeks. It might be considered an artsy success in a few select cities, but that's not a real indicator of if it will do well across the country or the world. Any idiot can get on the Tonight Show these days, tons of crappy nothing movies have had stars be on various talk shows. Critics are only a small part of the movie-viewing public, and that alone doesn't make a role notable. Tons of movies & actors in movies get Oscar buzz, but few ever pan out- especially at this time of year. The Academy is notorious for forgetting anything released before December. If gets nominated for an Oscar or something, then sure we'll bump The Daily Show out- but that's a loooooooooong ways away. --TheTruthiness 07:35, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
Removed 40-Year-Old Virgin poster
I have removed the "40 year old virgin" poster from this article, as it is copyrighted. Fair use is believed to apply to movie posters used in articles about their own movie, but use in a article about an actor is probably not acceptable. If anyone disagrees please feel free to Let me know or post here. -Lanoitarus 09:13, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
- The poster is notable as virgin was the movie that arguably made Carell the well-known celebrity he is today. The idea that Universal Pictures would sue Wikipedia because Carell's article had the poster image is ridiculous. --DrBat 00:22, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
- Carell is the only thing featured on that poster besides text. The poster was one of the most talked about, every interview for the movie I saw with Carell had them talking about the poster with him. It's still fair use, it's a movie he starred in and easily qualifies. It definately belongs in the article. --TheTruthiness 00:53, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
Images - free or not?
It is not necessarily true that images need only be free in the infobox. As they are promotional material they are published to promote either the character in the production or the production itself, not the actor. As such they are not free to promote the actor. A number of these have been to mediation and the only ones that have been allowed have been for iconic characters, notably James Bond. If you wish to take this to mediation then I would be glad to. (Quentin X 16:01, 24 February 2007 (UTC))
- The images are being used to illustrate the actor's roles in the movies, not the actor himself. --DrBat 16:34, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
- But they are on the actor's page and are, therefore, illustrating the actor. (Quentin X 16:58, 24 February 2007 (UTC))
- But they're not there just to show a picture of Carell.--DrBat 17:00, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
- But that is exactly what they are doing. (Quentin X 17:09, 24 February 2007 (UTC))
- They're there to illustrate his roles in the movies; there is no possible to way to have a free image from the movie. --DrBat 17:13, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
- Look, we can argue this until we're blue in the face. Bottom line is, according to the history of Wikipedia, they are not allowed to be used on the actor's page. If you wish to put it to arbitration then please say so. If not then please do not put them back on the page. (Quentin X 17:18, 24 February 2007 (UTC))
- Fine, put it in arbitration.--DrBat 18:09, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
- Look, we can argue this until we're blue in the face. Bottom line is, according to the history of Wikipedia, they are not allowed to be used on the actor's page. If you wish to put it to arbitration then please say so. If not then please do not put them back on the page. (Quentin X 17:18, 24 February 2007 (UTC))
- They're there to illustrate his roles in the movies; there is no possible to way to have a free image from the movie. --DrBat 17:13, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
- But that is exactly what they are doing. (Quentin X 17:09, 24 February 2007 (UTC))
- But they're not there just to show a picture of Carell.--DrBat 17:00, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
- But they are on the actor's page and are, therefore, illustrating the actor. (Quentin X 16:58, 24 February 2007 (UTC))
Italian?
See discussion above. There don't seem to be any good sources that say he's either Italian-American or specify the "Carello" last name (i.e. IMDB is not a good source, and neither is that un-official "Office" site that copies the IMDB's trivia) Mad Jack 07:48, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
I found something interesting on this site regarding surname Carello in Italy and Usa. http://gens.labo.net/it/cognomi/gif.html?cognome=CARELLO&k=FF&t=cognomi&s=C http://www.gens-us.net/map/genera.html?cognome=CARELLO I'm sure that Steve Carell have italian origin.-- anonymous
- I know this isn't considered a reliable source but I just wanted to mention this because it's a fun memory for me. I remember one "Even Stephven" on The Daily Show where Carell "exposed" Colbert by revealing that his real name is ColberT not Col-bear. This has since been revealed as true. Colbert then "exposed" Carell by showing one of his old headshots and revealed that his real name was Carello. The headshot looked real but I have no proof the name wasn't altered. But I remember specifically Colbert saying "He tells you the news but he'd probably prefer to tell you 'I like the spicy meat-a-ball!'" MrBlondNYC 09:51, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
- You know what, could this whole "Carello" story have originated from this joke? I don't think there's any question that he was born under "Carell", but I can imagine a viewer assuming the above was fact and adding it to the IMDB, and so on... Mad Jack 08:16, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
Italian?
The IMDB says he's Italian-American and that his original surname is "Carrelli" or some such thing. Does anyone know if that's true? I just haven't seen a good source, like an interview or article (and the IMDB in these cases is hardly a good source).Vulturell 22:48, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
RE: Yeah, he actually said in an interview he was italian, I can't recall where exactly. So between himself and Imdb, I'm sure his real name is Carelli and he his italian.- 2/18/06
- Was it a television interview, or something online? Vulturell 18:37, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
It would depend on if and when the name was changed- if his grandfather or parents changed it, his real name is still Carell.Saxophobia 12:37, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
Well. His mother's née is Koch, which is definitely not Italian (Koch => German for cook), and Carell could also be a Dutch name since there was a famous Dutch comedian named Rudi Carell. He is surely no 100% Italian.
Rudi Carell was the stage name of Rudolf Kesselaar, Carell is not a Dutch name. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.94.203.178 (talk) 03:16, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
Alert: Image nominated for deletion
Please be aware that the image of Carell on The Daily Show, [1], has been nominated for deletion from Wikipedia here: Wikipedia:Images_and_media_for_deletion/2007_August_24#Image:Carellcolbert_ds.jpg. All are encouraged to (a) particpate in the discussion there, (b) improve the image's fair use rationale, and (c) improve the article so the value of the image to it is clearer.—DCGeist 01:52, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
I agree take out the second picture. It is a horrible picture of the man and does not do him justice. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.233.45.31 (talk) 19:04, 26 June 2008 (UTC) take out both and replace them with something better. -(Mini no ipod (talk) 00:51, 13 August 2008 (UTC))
Lookalike
Do you think we should put a trivia and mention he looks a lot like President Ahmadinejad of Iran?
HAHAHA!! That is hilarious!Brittoni (talk) 12:21, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
Three children?
Does Carell actually have three kids (the oldest son, Adrian?)? That was changed from two to three recently,and all interviews and information otherwise are saying he only has two children. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.137.176.179 (talk) 02:35, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
Virgin?
The IMDB says he's still a virgin despite being married. Does anyone know if this is true? I just haven't seen a good source, like an interview or article (and the IMDB in these cases is hardly a good source).Pirella 22:48, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
As he has two children and he's also a babe, I highly doubt that to be true. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.132.175.250 (talk) 23:02, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
Table broken
The table is broken. I don't know how to fix it as table codes are like BAM a total mess to look at. JayKeaton 17:27, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
Yes can someone please fix the table, and also add Despicable Me to the list in 2010? Thank you1 69.142.233.248 (talk) 20:54, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
Early career
He was in Melinda and Melinda after Bruce Almighty and Anchorman, which are listed so they appear to have occured later in his career.
- Very early career = Second City Northwest 2nd Review ROSEBUD WAS THE SLED or Sunday in the Industrial Park with George Playbill April 1989 - Program - Steven J. Carell - most recently a member of the Second City National Touring Company. (Saved some old programs to see if anyone would become famous, just looked at this today 9/23/2009).Kidsheaven (talk) 21:50, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
Salary
The Office (Seasons 1, 2) - $76,000 an episode Evan Almighty - $50,000,000 The 40-Year-Old Virgin - $500,000,000
I doubt he made 50 million for Evan almighty (though that would explain the huge budget) Since it was reported he made 5 million I thought.
Also, I really really doubt that he made 500 million for 40 year old virgin since it was his first staring role and the budget was only 26 million... 198.133.139.5
- Wow. We're really lucky for your doubts. Then fix it!
67.109.178.2 (talk) 12:46, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
Hairiest chest since Robin Williams, and no mention of it?
I can't believe there's no mention whatsoever about how hairy his chest is, especially since the waxing scene in "40 Year Old Virgin" is what catapulted the film to fame and fortune, and Carell along with it. He had to talk about his hairy chest in every publicity interview after that, and answered a million questions about the waxing, even opening his shirt and showing one reporter that the chest hair was real. And NO ONE mentions it at all in this (painfully detailed) Wikipedia article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.4.206.143 (talk) 21:11, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
- Then mention it! Why do people come on these discussion pages and say "Someone should..." Do it fatty! 67.109.178.2 (talk) 12:48, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
Removed random name changes
I've undone the last two edits to this page, which seemed to consist of changing "Steve Carell" to "Michael Scott" (the name of Carell's character in The Office) throughout. Carell is his real name. Eliotbeer (talk) 12:52, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
Nonsense sentence
The following sentence doesn't make any sense. "Although the film was a surprise success, Carell revealed in an interview with Entertainment Weekly Carell appeared as "Uncle Arthur" alongside Nicole Kidman and Will Ferrell in the 2005 remake of Bewitched." What is the connection? Wickedjacob (talk) 21:24, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
Bruce Almighty
Think he was in Evan, not Bruce, Almighty. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.152.6.148 (talk) 09:36, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
- he was in both, and he was the same character in both. 90.206.126.79 (talk) 23:56, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
Terrible photo
The upper photo is photo shopped. this is should be not the standard of a encyclopedia which should at least try to give facts and not made up stuff. just my opinion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.108.98.169 (talk) 16:39, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
Don't we have anything not so blurry?
- It's not the greatest photo, but when you need to rely on free images, this is currently the best we have. We just have to keep asking photographers who have better pictures if they are willing to release an image or two for the article. --Nehrams2020 22:52, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
try google! people realese thousands of their own pics a day!!! we will probably find a better one there than waiting for some guy to give us one! the one that he might give will maybe be WORSE than the one that is already there!!!!!!!!(Mini no ipod (talk) 00:50, 13 August 2008 (UTC))
"Untitled ____________"
Surely the numerous Untitled projects in the filmography table isn't in line with wikipedia guidelines....? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.255.172.229 (talk) 02:21, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
Yeah, I agree. I've done it before on another actor, it was reverted as it's not within Wikipedia Guidelines. I don't think future movies, such as the ones that are planned for 2013 are allowed either--Mjs1991 (talk) 10:09, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
And there could also be some information about it at Wikipedia:Planned films--Mjs1991 (talk) 10:19, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
1962 or 1963?
What year was he born?
- 1962, as far as I can tell.[2] --Fallout boy 04:43, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
- Both years show up in Google searches; I think 1963 though. This American-Statesman article says that on August 16, 2005, he turned 42, which would make his birth year 1963. I'm going to change it back. Schi 23:06, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
- I would rather trust IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0136797/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.24.244.10 (talk) 17 February 2007
- I changed the birth year to 1963, because that's in line with the cited source, as originally added in December 2006. The year was changed to 1962 in April 2007 but the citation was not touched, so it has been misleading since then. The correct year might well be 1962, but I think a better source than IMDb is needed. – Haltiamieli (talk) 14:48, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
This interview is from 2012, and, he says that he is about to celebrate his 50th birthday -- so 1962 is the correct birth year https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKkbjXYzxXA — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.233.150.244 (talk) 18:36, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
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Voice acting
The term "voice actor" doesn't need to be listed in his occupations, I was not the one that added it in the first place, this IP user:https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Steve_Carell&diff=806453336&oldid=806091232, was the one that added it in there without explaining it. Now I'm trying to explain about it as well, It's because he doesn't do much voice over work and the term "Actor" already cover them both, his live action work and voice over work. The edit is pointless and unnecessary. 174.192.11.120 (talk) 16:20, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
- Considering he has been in (credited with) a number of movies including the big one Despicable Me where he is know for being the voice of the movie, having him credited as a voice actor is entirely appropriate and makes this distinction from actors who only do acting. NZFC(talk) 17:57, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
Occupation
Unless we get this edit war too stop, it's best to talk about it here so everyone can listen. If you look about this discussion, user NZ Footballs Conscience stated and agreed that it can be added in the article. 174.192.15.151 (talk) 01:32, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
- The edit war is one-sided and your only support comes from User:NZ Footballs Conscience, a thoroughly capable editor who probably didn't notice your shameful behavior on the article. User:Sro23, User:Billhpike, and I believe your version of the article is inappropriate and in support of it, you've edit warred past a 3RR warning. This edit war will stop entirely of your own volition: either you'll stop or you'll get stopped. There's nothing anybody else can do to, in your words, "get this edit war too [sic] stop" so I guess we'll just wait. CityOfSilver 01:42, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
- I have no opinion about what version is appropriate. I only revert 174.192.15.151 (talk · contribs) since she had breached the three revert rule. Billhpike (talk) 01:45, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
- @Billhpike: Okay but would you mind forming an opinion anyway? The best way to settle this is to get the content dispute resolved via discussion and consensus rather than just continuing the revert war until an admin happens by. CityOfSilver 01:48, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
- I lack the expertise to comment. Billhpike (talk) 01:50, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
- Have you posted on WP:ANI (edit war) or WP:3rd (request a third opinion)? Billhpike (talk) 01:51, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
- @Billhpike: I reported them to the edit warring noticeboard but this and any other report will be a temporary fix because this person hops around identities and spends weeks away before returning to edit war. It's an easy solution with a lot more long-term value so, arguably, everyone is being disruptive by ignoring it and spending time on this stuff. CityOfSilver 01:59, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
- @Billhpike: Okay but would you mind forming an opinion anyway? The best way to settle this is to get the content dispute resolved via discussion and consensus rather than just continuing the revert war until an admin happens by. CityOfSilver 01:48, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
- I have no opinion about what version is appropriate. I only revert 174.192.15.151 (talk · contribs) since she had breached the three revert rule. Billhpike (talk) 01:45, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
Just come across this, at the time I agreed with IP but hadn't seen this was a back and forth issue. I'm happy to go with consensus but do feel that since he is a credited for his voice acting it is relevant. In the fact that some of the movies he "acted" in where only with his voice. I agree a consensus should be made before changed again. NZFC(talk) 01:55, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
- What term have reliable, third party, sources used to describe his occupation? Film credits do not count since they are a primary source. Billhpike (talk) 02:18, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
- FYI, the rotating IP's belong to banned User:Bigshowandkane64. The only way to make this stop is semi-protection. Sro23 (talk) 02:20, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
- I don't care enough to have it changed or look for sources that probably support it (my feeling, but maybe wrong). So happy with status-quo and the pending changes protection on the page. NZFC(talk) 02:23, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
- I've looked at this issue. Although Carell has done some work as a voice actor, he is better known for his regular acting. Since voice acting is a type of acting and the lead is already getting long ("actor, comedian, producer, writer and director."), I don't think his voice acting should be listed in the lead. As for the infobox, I'm in favor of including the term "voice actor" only if there is at least one reliable secondarday source that describes Carell as a voice actor instead of as just as an actor. Billhpike (talk) 18:50, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
- User:Billhpike, I did find this [3] article that says that he is a voice actor and agree just having the information in the infobox is enough and doesn't need to be in the lead. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NZ Footballs Conscience (talk • contribs)
- @NZ Footballs Conscience: I think there was a typo in your link. This one works [4]. Billhpike (talk) 20:56, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
- Sorry at work and got distracted, yeah that one is the link I was meaning. If you are happy with that, then I think we just add voice actor to the infobox? NZFC(talk) 20:58, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
- The IP editor has not always had the most constructive feedback, but we should still give her time to reply before declaring that we have reached consensus. The IP range block will expire in about 36 hours. She may, for example, feel that specific portions of MOS:LEAD, oblige us to include voice actor in the lead. Of course, if she disregards WP:CIVILITY again, we can ignore her comments Billhpike (talk) 21:28, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
- Sorry at work and got distracted, yeah that one is the link I was meaning. If you are happy with that, then I think we just add voice actor to the infobox? NZFC(talk) 20:58, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
- @NZ Footballs Conscience: I think there was a typo in your link. This one works [4]. Billhpike (talk) 20:56, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
@Billhpike I'm back! Sorry, I just needed a little break from all this. Because I know edit warring won't solve anything over this, like you guys said, it's best to talk about it here. Anyways, I still respect and understand what you mean by your feedback and stuff. But I still say, those source that NZ Footballs and you "Billhpike" pointed out could actually work for the article. But yes, you mentioned that he "IS" better known for his regular acting, what I was just trying saying before is that the reason why I kept saying he's not notable for the occupation "voice actor", is because he doesn't do voice work almost every year and every day like most notable voice actors do, such as Billy West, Jess Harnell, Jim Cummings, Tom Kenny, Dee Bradley Baker and Frank Welker for example, they do voice work almost every day each year of their career, and Carell only does it for only a few times in a few couple of years. But still like I said, I'm "NOT" complaining about it and I said those sources you two found can still work, I think it's still ok that we can credited him as a "voice actor", even though he doesn't do it almost every day each year. But we can still use it for the article. 174.192.20.91 (talk) 19:23, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
- I'm glad we could find consensus. Please don't get into an edit war next time. Billhpike (talk) 00:05, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
P.S. Also Bill, just to give you a heads up. I'm not a girl, I'm a guy. 174.192.20.91 (talk) 19:27, 5 December 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.33.69.180 (talk)
- I always use female pronouns for IP editors. See User:Billhpike#Pronouns Billhpike (talk) 00:05, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
Ok, sorry for the misunderstanding. But once the block expires, can we use those sources for the occupation now that we agreed to this? 174.192.24.216 (talk) 16:30, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
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Source Trouble
For some time, I’ve been trying to add in the source of the info regarding what Steve Carell’s influences are regarding acting and comedy, which is on a YouTube video. For some reason, though...this site won’t let me add it in.
Can someone please look into the matter? Or tell me why this is happening? Austin012599 (talk) 18:10, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
Change career subsections
Currently, the Career section is divided in four sub-sections:
- Early work
- The Office
- Film career
- Comedic roles (2004-2013)
- Dramatic roles (2014-present)
- Return to television
I think that the sub-sections can be divided more evenly with other titles, like that of Reese Witherspoon. With the current page, 'The Office' and 'Film career' overlap each other even though both occur at the same time. I propose to change the current sections to the following:
- Early work (1989-2003)
- Breakthrough with The Office and comedic film roles (2004-2013)
- Professional expansion with dramatic roles (2014-2018)
- Return to television (2019-present)
- Upcoming projects
The above grouping is much more easier to understand and also emphasizes that Carell has returned to television since 2019. Since this is a major change, I would like to know how others feel about this change. Virin1009 (talk) 16:31, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
All My Children
I've sourced that Steve Carell appeared on All My Children on January 12, 1996 - The actual scene is on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McdaePeD4BA
And we him actually credited on the show https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFU6T3w5SDo go 39:41 to see him credited as Steven J. Carell
Plus the credit has been accepted on imdb.com
So why has been REJECTED on his wiki page? When we have the video scene of him and him being credited at the end of the show. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.48.73.84 (talk) 00:29, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
- The editor who rejected it stated the reasons in their edit summary. Simply review the history of the page to read it. Anastrophe (talk) 01:29, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
Contributions?
I removed a revision by Waltercool that makes no sense as written (and is a bit of a grammar/syntax mess). Contrary to what Waltercool said, I have nothing against Fox News, per se; I said Fox Entertainment may not pass as a reliable source, especially in a BLP article. The same would go for Fox News (probably reliable) vs. Hannity (not so much). Also, three sources are too much; one good one will be fine.
The text in question:
In 2020, he supported among other Hollywood stars to arrested Minnesota protesters with a bail out fund.<ref>https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/steve-carell-seth-rogen-stars-donating-bail-out-minneapolis-protesters</ref><ref>https://www.ibtimes.com/steve-carell-more-celebrities-donate-minnesota-freedom-fund-2985645</ref><ref>https://www.msn.com/en-us/entertainment/news/steve-carell-janelle-mon%C3%A1e-and-more-stars-help-pay-for-minnesota-protestors-bail/ar-BB14OKKX</ref>
I've asked Waltercool to come here to discuss this—I'm sure the community can come to an agreement on how to word it once he explains what he's trying to say. — UncleBubba ( T @ C ) 14:18, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
- @Waltercool I think you are trying to type this " In 2020, he was one of the Hollywood stars who supported to bail out Minneapolis supporters by donation." If you need any guidance, please hit me up on my talk page. Happy to lend a helping hand. Angus1986 TALK 11:45, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
- Actually, "supported to bail out" doesn't make much sense, either. Sorry. — UncleBubba ( T @ C ) 14:59, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
This has been quiet for a day or two, so I'll take a shot at copyediting the work to a modicum of readability, since the subject seems notable. I'm unwilling to use tabloid or Hollywood gossip/entertainment publications as sources because they're just too scummy-feeling, so I settled on a Newsweek article that seems pretty balanced (despite Newsweek tending to lean to the right). I also reworded the text to communicate the pertinent information to the reader. Here is the insertion:
In 2020, Carell joined several other Hollywood celebrities in donating money to the Minnesota Freedom Fund (MFF), a nonprofit that "pays bail for those who could not otherwise afford it".<ref name="MFF01">{{cite news |last1=Rahman |first1=Kahleda |title=Chrissy Teigen, Seth Rogen, Celebrities Donate Money to Bail Out Those Arrested in Nationwide Protests |url=https://www.newsweek.com/celebrities-donate-bail-protesters-1507641 |accessdate=12 September 2020 |work=Newsweek |date=2020-05-31}}</ref>
If you have a problem with the source, fine. Replace it with a better one, but make sure it's arguably better (and passes the strictures of WP:RS). Be sure to fix the quote, too. This subject may be controversial; please remember this is a BLP article, so do not add POV material (or any material that is not reliably sourced). — UncleBubba ( T @ C ) 14:44, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
- Sorry for my delay replying, but even if FOX Entertainment or CNN (Turner) may (or not) be reliable sources, the same information can be seen at other sources quoted, of course, validating the sources to not be circular. What I don't understand why reverting my contribution instead of fixing the incorrect sentences or extra sources. Wikipedia doesn't have a "blacklist" or "whitelist" of sources, so just rejecting a contribution, even with excess of information seems not helpful.
- Waltercool (talk) 17:27, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
- Ok understood your point now, many thanks for the correction for the syntax used to describe the structure.
- Waltercool (talk) 17:49, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
- @Waltercool: I'm glad you see what I was trying to do. Because this is a BLP article (and only because of that), if I see some unsourced, unexplained, or otherwise dodgy insertion, I'll remove it. Immediately. (In other articles, a {{citation needed}} template is OK.) You did see that, after waiting for a couple of days to see if you wanted to fix it, I did it myself. (I understand you were absent for a bit.)
- You are correct; Wikipedia doesn't have a source blacklist/whitelist, but the community did discuss some publications' journalistic quality and decided some of them are just unacceptably poor (e.g. The Daily Mail, IIRC).
- ALSO, here's a trick you might like: in Talk pages, when you reply, put a colon (":") at the beginning of your reply and the MediaWiki software will indent it for you. This gives everyone a good visual cue as to where replies begin and end. I hope you don't mind, but I've done that to your reply, above. Cheers! — UncleBubba ( T @ C ) 18:23, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
Frat packer
the frat pack article does not list him as a primary member we should add him as such and update the flimography -ishmaelblues — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ishmaelblues (talk • contribs) 05:35, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
Birthplace
Steve Carell was born at Emerson Hospital in Concord, MA, not Acton, MA — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.160.132.48 (talk) 15:42, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 13 September 2022
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The character Steve Carrell plays is not called Alexander Strauss. His characters name is Alan Strauss 86.19.18.174 (talk) 20:30, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 26 October 2022
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At the section "The Office (2005–2011)" there is a picture with the caption "Carell at the 2010 Screen Actors Guild Awards, for the sixth season of The Office." Can someone change "The Office" to italics? I'm not sure if it's supposed to be italicized so I apologize if it's not. Thank you Spinixster (talk) 07:11, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
- Fixed and fixed another one as well. --Mvqr (talk) 12:29, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
The Patient
His new drama series, The Patient, needs to be added. Laurinkeithdavis (talk) 10:41, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
Carell or Carrell
Please standardize the spelling in the article. I believe it is one R, like the article title. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.227.147.236 (talk) 11:00, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
- Done - thanks for pointing out that problem. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 21:35, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 27 February 2023
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dilf 195.220.0.99 (talk) 14:13, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
- Please be clearer on what you want done. --Mvqr (talk) 14:20, 27 February 2023 (UTC)