Talk:Steven Schwartz (psychologist)

Latest comment: 3 years ago by Research17 in topic "Not without controversy"

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Needs to be written in a more encyclopaedic format Dankru 12:51, 26 March 2006 (UTC)Reply

It's odd that the neutrality of the 'controversies' section is disputed and accused of containing 'weasel words', while the academic career section has lines like 'Steven Schwartz has a reputation as an efficent and effective manager, leader and communicator' and no flags on it. The last paragraph of the 'academic career' is more biased. Just say he likes vouchers and be done with it.

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This article is a reworded ripoff from [1]. I'm not going to copyvio it though. --Brad101 05:23, 9 August 2006 (UTC)Reply

Murdoch?

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I'm not sure of the exact reasons, but he was hated at Murdoch during his tenure in the mid-late 1990s (while I was a student there). Are there any reliable sources that document his time at Murdoch and how it ended? (I would personally argue that he isn't really notable enough to have an article about and the lack of reliable independent coverage of him points to this - however, I get the impression we've decided a VC is notable) Orderinchaos78 15:15, 2 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

Murdoch

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At Murdoch he was hated because he had proposed sweeping course cuts in order to ensure economic viability of the organisation. Most of the academics and students at Murdoch did not share his view that the University should be run as a business, and did not appreciate his attempts at restructuring or refocussing the University's research strengths. I was a student at the time. This actions and suggestions triggered student protests, and a student occupation of the Senate meeting room which went on for several weeks.

After the vote of no confidence (which I think happened in 2001), he left for Brunel. I believe Prof John Yovich took over after that. People saw Yovich as a more palatable alternative to Schwartz who had come to be seen as an 'evil figure' in the debate about the reasons for the University's existience. Jetpowered 06:23, 8 February 2007 (UTC) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jetpowered (talkcontribs) 06:22, 8 February 2007 (UTC).Reply

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"Not without controversy"

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I'm not sure what the above phrase means. Either something is controversial or it is not. As I understand it, compliance with encyclopedic style means that we should strive to be as factual as possible. Therefore I'm flagging a change in this phrase to simply "controversial". Certainly the detail in the article seems to support this. I'll wait to see what other Wikipedia Editors think before actioning this change. Research17 (talk) 01:21, 8 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

To date there have been no objections, and thus I'll proceed with the change. Research17 (talk) 22:18, 18 May 2021 (UTC)Reply
Further to the above, I've also tried to make the introductory paragraph more succinct. I've also tried hard to make the intro paragraph even-handed, mentioning the controversy and opposition, but also noting his rationale and the fact that he did have some success. Hope that fellow-editors find this reasonable. Research17 (talk) 22:37, 18 May 2021 (UTC)Reply