Talk:Stigma (Star Trek: Enterprise)
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Just a reminder
editWikipedia is an encyclopedia and it is not a forum for Berman-bashing. I have removed the unsourced POV comments regarding the producers of the series -- the one comment I left in needs a citation. I also removed the rather POV description of the Awakening arc which is more appropriate for the episode articles from Season 4; I replaced it with a more NPOV version. 23skidoo 22:44, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
Incorrect Synopsis
editThe synopsis states that in this episode T'Pol "learns she has an incurable condition called pan'aar syndrome..." That is inaccurate. It is clear from the episode that T'Pol has known for quite some time that she has the disease.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.165.201.47 (talk • contribs) 21:20, 24 July 2007
Incorrect tone
editThe tone of the plot synopsis is too informal and unclear, making the plot synopsis less than useful for those who are not already familiar with the episode. As a specific example, I have no idea what the sentence "Dr. Yuris then exposes T'Pol's secret, and comes out of the mind meld closet himself" is supposed to mean, and I believe that nobody who has not already seen the episode (or who is not deeply immersed in ST:Enterprise canon) can know what it means. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.127.149.73 (talk) 00:46, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
Acceptable source?
editHaving just watched through this episode, I made a minor correction while the details were fresh for me.
What I'm wondering is, would listing the episode itself be considered an acceptable citation? Perhaps including the time code as well, when pertinent.
This has much broader implications than just for this case, since it would apply to any media. With pretty much everything available on DVD or whatever, the original program is far more reliable than any print source coming from critics, fans or whatever. Kid Bugs (talk) 23:31, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
Was T'pol really forced to mind meld ?
editT'pol in this episode states she was forced to mind melding, but as we seen, she willingly went for it in "Fusion". She was even warned before and offered, quoting, "more traditional approach". When i watched the "Stigma" i was like "wut, now she says she was forced ?" Its clearly visible that the mind meld was in the progress even before the moment she started to resist in continuing. I guess the message of this is "Even though she said yes in the beginning, it doesnt mean she wont blame you for kinda raping her later on". However, my point is nobody used the term "telepatic rape" so it should not be used in the description even though its so obvious. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.102.18.96 (talk) 21:58, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
AIDS parallel section
editI feel like the section talking about how the prejudice of the Vulcans is an allegory for common prejudices and misconceptions regarding AIDS really needs expansion. For instance, the "subculture" of Vulcans who can mind-meld can be seen as a reference to the gay community, because AIDS is commonly thought of as a "gay disease," even though anyone can contract it. The episode uses T'Pol as an example of that, because she is not of the supposed "subculture," yet she still contracts it. Also the High Command's recall of T'Pol can be seen as either a reference to "Don't ask, don't tell" or to the many employers who have fired workers because they contracted AIDS and/or were gay. Additionally, the Vulcans' assumptions that (a) mind-melding is "dirty" and (b) everyone who mind-melds is going to contract the Syndrome can be seen as the common assumptions that homosexuality is evil and that all gay people will contract AIDS. The Vulcan High Command's concealing of the fact that anyone can meld and that anyone can contract Pa'nar Syndrome (revealed in a later episode, can't remember which one) is also significant.
I really think that some, if not all of this belongs in the article, the topics of AIDS and homosexuality are highly controversial, though, and I don't want to just add in information without sources and discussion. I'm also going to post this on WikiProject LGBT's talk page (WP:AIDS is defunct, so WikiProject:LGBT is the next-closest thing) to see if anyone there knows of any sources we can use, etc. cymru lass (hit me up)⁄(background check) 18:24, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
EDIT: Posted it on WikiProject LGBTQ's talk page here
Help fixing link
editCan someone please fix the link I've made to the episode Stigma? I can't get it to work... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.157.32.35 (talk) 15:40, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
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