Talk:Stilwell, Oklahoma/Archive 1

Archive 1

Admins Please Read This: Duncan Construction "Vandalism"

The reason why people "vandalise" this page is because of the infamous "Frank Garret of Duncan Construction" prank call soundboard, and this article is about the town where Frank Garret lives in. Just so you know, the people who "vandalise" this page with Duncan Construction related text or enter the name Frank Garret in the article don't think that it's vandalism.--121.216.239.163 (talk) 05:25, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Frank Garrett is more well known than anything else ever to come out of Stilwell. Deserves a mention here and his own page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.21.221.15 (talk) 11:35, 10 April 2012 (UTC) Frank Garrett should be listed as a notable resident of Stillwell, OK because he is, regardless the circumstances. If Adolf Hitler is listed as a notable resident of Passau, Germany, then Frank Garrett with all his profanity (which is a lesser evil than the holocaust) should be listed as a notable resident of Stillwell, OK. This is for the sake of impartial facts which belong in any good encyclopedia.

There's no controversy. Generally people aren't added to 'notable resident' lists unless they are themselves the subjects of Wikipedia articles....but this has already been explained numerous times over the last few years. JNW (talk) 00:59, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Yewr outta yewr mind, buddeh. Ah don't have even have a Wikipedia article an' I don't dew dirt work. -Frank Garrett — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mgokuda (talk • contribs) 19:39, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

I believe he should be added, he's well know enough for him to be relevant in Wikipedia. No personal info would be added, simply his name and business. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DuncanConstruction33 (talk • contribs) 02:19, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

And once he meets WP:NOTABILITY guidelines a discussion can ensue. You might want to check out WP:COI, too. JNW (talk) 03:16, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

If Antoine Dodson meets the criteria for notability, I do not see why Frank Garret would not. This seems to me like a pretty harmless inclusion, but one that many people find interesting. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Venomlord99 (talk • contribs) 04:38, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Looks like Dodson's been covered by NBC, the Washington Post, the Guardian, BET, and MTV, among other major news and entertainment outlets. Here's the Google search for Mr. Garrett [1]. The issue isn't whether inclusion is harmless, it's whether it meets Wikipedia guidelines. If you think he does, write an article about him, with WP:RELIABLE sources, and it can stand or fall on its merits. It has been tried before: [2], so it would need a substantial upgrade in sources. JNW (talk) 05:10, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

The Antoine Dodson argument brings up a good point. Frank Garrett is a harmless addition. He has been a topic of interest because he has had a story of him on fox news (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6qCrCScFSk). Frank Garrett should be added due to his notability. Its simply a small addition with no harm done. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DuncanConstruction33 (talk • contribs) 04:28, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Frank Garrett is the reason the vast majority of visitors to this article would have any interest in reading about Stilwell, anyway. Anyone trying to keep him off the page has a stick up his/her ass. --Josh1billion (talk) 22:39, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks so much--I wondered what was chafing. Perhaps you could read Wikipedia guidelines, and save the personal attacks. JNW (talk) 04:42, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Here's your notability requirement. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6qCrCScFSk —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.53.159.220 (talk) 14:39, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Well, here he is in the news again. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0h9eoL2nsrI. If Frank Garrett he didn't warrant inclusion before, he does now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.227.9.87 (talk) 17:17, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

How come someone like Boxxy has a Wikipedia article and poor Frank doesn't? Frank is not as famous on the internets but is definitely known. Stop discriminating please. He should be added to the notable people and a separate article should be written about him because, as someone mentioned above, the only reason this page is viewed by relatively greater number of people is Frank himself. If people like the Epic Beard Man can be discussed as internet phenomenons and celebrities on this very Wiki why shouldn't Frank? Because he is not as "viral"? That is pure prejudice. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.29.155.58 (talk) 06:11, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Also you have a problem with the only notable resident listed on this page Wilma Mankiller. On her personal article it says she is born in Tahlequah. On the Tahlequah page she is not listed as a notable resident at all. That needs to be straightened out. In case she is removed as being a notable resident of Stilwell, then Stilwell has no notable residents. Yet somehow 2600+ random assholes on utube know Frank and his address in Stilwell, OK.

The president of Canada met with Frank Garrett, that's much better than Antoine Dodson being covered by the news. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.217.204.51 (talk) 23:13, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

The point about Boxxy is well taken. Frankly, it sets a precedent for the recognition of individuals whose main celebrity-context, so to speak, is online. If anyone on this talk page can honestly say that he or she believes that the majority of searches to this page--that is, where a user did not simply follow a link here--are unrelated to Frank Garrett, I think that that person is not being as open-minded as he or she could be. Putting aside the frequent quoting of Frank Garrett on this talk page, which is certainly unproductive and obnoxious, the fact remains that Stilwell's fame in this day and age derives primarily from a resident whom some do not want to mention. The fear is that including information that is absolutely relevant to the town's reputation in popular culture, as it were, would somehow degrade Wikipedia. I understand the concerns on some level, but I just don't think that they are entirely reasonable.

Alkibiades14 (talk) 17:20, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

Boxxy made nearly a hundred people strip themselves and write "Kill Boxxy" and "Boxxy kisses *arrow to buttocks*". Wikipedia was already as degraded as you think it could get the moment it was on the internet. Face it, people deserve to know who comes from Stilwell and not someone who didn't even live there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.126.33.201 (talk) 11:54, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

I agree. Just trying to step into the shoes of those who do not. In any case, those who argue that outside of the state, the most known facet of Stilwell, Oklahoma is anything but the late Mr. Garrett and his business ought to consider the degree to which this article's talk and history pages suggest otherwise. Alkibiades14 (talk) 22:38, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Frank "Duncan" Garrett

Why is ol' Frank not on here? Is it because of his edginess? Admittedly he offended some people, but remember that Wikipedia is not censored. Now give him a spot on the "notable residents" list where he belongs, yew shtoopid SOBs, yew! Duncan's Drunken Destruction (talk) 19:37, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

There's one source of major news coverage (FOX), which makes Duncan marginally notable by Wikipedia guidelines. For many lesser people that is entirely sufficient to warrant inclusion, but since the claim to WP:NOTE is based on prank calls (the phone equivalent of Internet trollery) and Wikipedia is 90% administrated by humorless hikikomori afflicted with assburgers and unwarranted self-importance disease, it is likely that no successful mention of Frank or any of the other Stilwell victims will ever see the light of day until there's a supermajority (3+) of major national news sources. Never forget that the Internet is Serious Business, and never forgive those who forget it. This comment alone is probably worthy of a vandal2 or vandal3 template. Court Appointed Shrub (talk) 07:48, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

Frank Garrett

He is the sole reason why anyone even knows that Stilwell exists. He will stay on this page and that's that. --70.242.130.2 (talk) 16:54, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

He's the only reason that I know anything about that town. InforManiac (talk) 16:17, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

Article classification

This article meets the criteria for Class C Bruin2 (talk) 04:45, 12 October 2013 (UTC)

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