Talk:Sting.com domain name dispute

Sting.com is now Sting's website..

So how did Sting end up getting sting.com then? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.197.219.185 (talk) 20:37, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

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Wondering how I can explain the origination of using the name Sting, since the context here is a dispute with Gordon Sumner and the readers (especially those who like his music) may emotionally tend to infer that my use of the name is somehow associated with Gordon's use of the name. We both have completely different reasons and origins for using the word, as well as others who have used the name (Sting of the WCF , Sting WNBA basketball team, Nathan Sting etc). The use of the name 'Sting' by Mr Urvan was an abbreviated form of the name 'Stingray' originally used by Mr Urvan while participating in Bulletin Board Systems circa 1985. The online moniker 'Stingray' was borrowed from the TV show of the same name, also circa 1985.

Gordon Sumner has a self-citing paragraph about the origin of his name so I wanted to know if I could do the same here. Thank you. MichaelUrvan (talk) 10:28, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

We'd still need some details describing how you gave him the site, and a news or other reference for the facts. a little insignificant 14:26, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

To my knowledge there are no published accounts of the transfer.. Sting is a gentleman, and well .. I try also. MichaelUrvan (talk) 19:42, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

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The result of the move request was: Semi-boldly moved to Sting.com domain name dispute, based on the proposal by user:Natg 19; I thing that adding ".com" makes clearer what is this about, cf. Sex.com. No such user (talk) 09:40, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

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Michael Urvan → Gordon Sumner p/k/a Sting v Michael Urvan – This article has never really been a biograpy of Michael Urvan, but a description of the sting.com domain name dispute. Per WP:BLP1E, it ought to be named after the event rather than the person. It would also be good if sting.com was a redirect to this page 31.111.26.44 (talk) 21:34, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

• Comment This may be a candidate for WP:AFD; see WP:NOTNEWS. The article is essentially orphaned, and it appears that a good chunk of it was written by Michael Urvan himself [1]. 162 etc. (talk) 04:21, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

  It may be old, but this was still a notable decision of the UDRP, with an enduring legacy. It was the first case where a famous entity did not get ICANN to roll over and just give them their desired domain name. The decision predates e.g. Nissan Motors v. Nissan Computer by 4 years. It affirmed the UDRP rules that the complainant needs to prove the domain is being used in bad faith before they can make a "cybersquatting" accusation.

  It was widely covered at the time and was a worldwide notable event and is cited in law journals.

  Some of the popular news coverage from 2000:

  • https://www.nytimes.com/2000/07/28/business/technology-briefing-internet-sting-loses-on-domain-name.html
  • http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/855523.stm
  • https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2000/jul/28/efinance.business
  • https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/analysis-and-features/a-hit-for-jethro-tull-in-domain-name-dispute-709779.html

  Some of the academic articles citing Gordon Sumner p/k/a Sting v Michael Urvan:

  • http://classic.austlii.edu.au/au/journals/MurUEJL/2003/34.html
  • https://heinonline.org/HOL/LandingPage?handle=hein.journals/sccj17&div=21&id=&page=
  • https://digitalcommons.schulichlaw.dal.ca/cjlt/vol1/iss3/6/

  I don't believe the notability of this event is in question, just that the article should be about the event, not about Mr Urvan (who is otherwise not a notable person) 31.111.26.44 (talk) 13:30, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

  This event was newsworthy; but per WP:NOTNEWS, "most newsworthy events do not qualify for inclusion". This article has existed on Wikipedia since 2006, yet does not have any meaningful incoming links, which definitely raises doubts as to its notability. I'll leave it at that, since this is an RM and not an AfD. I've also added a COI template. @MichaelUrvan: 162 etc. (talk) 15:52, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

• Support but move to "Sting domain name dispute". Agree with IP user that this is not an article about Urvan but mainly about the domain name dispute. Natg 19 (talk) 20:37, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

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P.S. I linked this article from UDRP: [2]. No such user (talk) 10:23, 3 March 2023 (UTC)