Talk:Stop (Spice Girls song)/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: — Legolas ^(talk2me) 11:34, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Well well, look who I caught today! Mr. Christopher himself. :) I will be reviewing the article according to the heightened GA criterias. At first a checklinks and dablinks checking. :) — Legolas ^(talk2me) 11:34, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Quick-checks

• Checklinks — There are a number of redirect links, I think the allmusic links are still there because you were working in your sandbox while the allmusicbot was correcting the links. There is a dead link also.

Dead link replaced and redirects fixed. Frcm1988 (talk) 20:39, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

• Dablinks — No dablinks, goody goody.

• Alt image — I know that alternate text are no longer a valid item, but this article is too well constructed to miss it. This one is upto you christopher.

Could you help me with this? I never did an alternate text before, I don't know how specific the description needs to be. Frcm1988 (talk) 20:39, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

I rearranged some images and removed one, which was not adding anything to the reader's understanding. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 16:07, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

More reviews coming up.... — Legolas ^(talk2me) 09:41, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Prose

Lead

• Written by the group members with Paul Wilson and Andy Watkins—the songwriters and production duo known as Absolute—at the same time as the group was filming scenes for their movie Spice World, it was produced by Wilson and Watkins for the group's second album Spiceworld, released in November 1997. --> This looks really long and snaky. I try slicing the snake and go with a better flow. "The song was written by the group members with Paul Wilson and Andy Watkins—the songwriters and production duo known as Absolute—at the same time the group was filming scenes for their movie Spice World. "Stop" was produced by Wilson and Watkins for the Spice Girls' second studio album Spiceworld, which was released in November 1997."

Changed. Frcm1988 (talk) 01:54, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

• that features --> and features; that implies that Blue-eyed soul featured instrumentation from guitar and brass, which is untrue

Changed. Frcm1988 (talk) 01:54, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

• showed them interacting with young girls in various children's games --> It wasn't. They instead played the games with the kids. Rephrase.

Rephrased. Frcm1988 (talk) 01:54, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

• Surprisingly, the lead is not a summarisation of the article, because you do not mention the live performance.

Added info about the performances. Frcm1988 (talk) 01:54, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Background

• set to be released in November --> Not clear as to which the month implies to. The promotion or the album release?

Clarified. Frcm1988 (talk) 01:54, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

• so the group had to do the all the song-writing and recording --> so the group had to do all the song-writing and recording

Corrected. Frcm1988 (talk) 01:54, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

• with logistical difficulties --> When you mention logistical difficulties, you need to clear it up, since from Mel B's quote it is not clear as to what logistical problem they faced.

I changed the comma for a semi-colon and removed the as from the line to remove the direct implication beetween the sentence and Mel B's quote. Frcm1988 (talk) 01:54, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Composition

• the song calls for a slowing down on the courtship process --> This needs elaboration. The song itlsef answers if I remember as to why the slowing down was necessary.

I tried to search for another source to expand about the lyrics, but couldn't find any, I however add some info about the key demographic of the song. Frcm1988 (talk) 01:54, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

That works too, just some kinda explanation. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 04:13, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

• The second part of the composition is impressive as usual of Christopher's works.

Thank you :D Frcm1988 (talk) 01:54, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Release and reception

• The first one, a standard CD single format that included --> remove that... you know why

Reworded. Frcm1988 (talk) 01:54, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

• contained the track, the --> contained the track alongwith the

Corrected. Frcm1988 (talk) 01:54, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

• Andy Gill of The Independent, called the album a "perky but charmless parade of pop pastiches" --> How is this being helpful in the review of the song?

Mmmm I don't know, he uses "Stop" as an example of one of these "pop pastiches": Instead, it's a perky but charmless parade of pop pastiches, from the opening pseudo-salsa of "Spice Up Your Life" and the pseudo-Motown stomp of "Stop" through to the lifeless flamenco stylings of "Viva Forever". Frcm1988 (talk) 01:54, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Hmm, I get it. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 04:13, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

• The link to silver for BPI seems wrong as it doesnot provide information on UK shipments. Change it to the correct one, List of music recording certifications and mention the shipment for clarity.

Changed wikilink. Frcm1988 (talk) 01:54, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

• Hot 100 Airplay link needs to be corrected. Hate these new Billboard names, don't you?

Corrected. Frcm1988 (talk) 01:54, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Music video

• and directed by James Brown --> and was directed by James Brown

Changed. Frcm1988 (talk) 01:54, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

• maybe wikilink some of the words in the first para?

Only wikilinked "terraced houses", don't know what else could I wikilink, maybe Ireland? but that is's a very well known place, speacially for British people.

• wikilink the games --> traditional games always have different links to what we type.

Wikilinked the rest of the games. Frcm1988 (talk) 01:54, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

• to an audience of --> in front of an audience of

Corrected. Frcm1988 (talk) 01:54, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Live performance

• The group performed "Stop" as a foursome --> Who was missing?

Reworded to "without Halliwell". Frcm1988 (talk) 01:54, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

• The VHS and DVD release of the concert, Girl Power! Live in Istanbul, does not include the "Stop" performance. --> Add a however infront of the sentence, since it is a contrast.

Added however. Frcm1988 (talk) 01:54, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

• in nearly a decade on the 2007 --> in nearly a decade at the 2007

Changed. Frcm1988 (talk) 01:54, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Formats and the rest of it

• Can you use the cite music release notes templates? This is too good an article to miss it.

Ok I will add them, altough I have to say that Im not in favor of this, because it only add unnecessary catalogue numbers and years, but that is another battle. I will need some time to dig out my cds though, I have a couple now, will add the rest later. Frcm1988 (talk) 01:54, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

I know that sucks, but then again, I don't want to snarky and peskies adding a citation needed template. This is such good work. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 04:13, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

• When you have separated the charts into two parts, why is the RPM chart suddenly with US? The separation is supposed to be done alphabetically.

Moved the Canadian chart to the other column. Frcm1988 (talk) 01:54, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

• Reference 73 is a repetition I guess of the RPM source.

Corrected the sources. Frcm1988 (talk) 01:54, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

• For the EL, can you use the YouTube template?

Replaced the link for the template. Frcm1988 (talk) 01:54, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Placing on hold for seven days. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 11:01, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

This is a bloody good piece of work, and I am happy that I was able to review it. I thoroughly enjoyed reading it as "Stop" was one of my jams during the late 90s. Effing good work Christopher. I'm happy to pass this as GA. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 04:13, 24 January 2011 (UTC)