Talk:Straw polls for the 2012 Republican Party presidential primaries

Latest comment: 12 years ago by Uptodateinfo in topic Twitter Poll

Lazy mathematics?

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The cumulative results table is a really nice idea, but it seems a bit slap dash. A poll with 16,000 votes is given equal weight as a poll with 20. It also gives Rick Perry almost nothing, because he's only been in the most recent couple of polls. Overall, I don't think in its current form it adds much to the article, though I cannot think of any way to improve it. Perhaps not putting the figures to two decimal places (which gives a false illusion of accuracy) would be a start. Wikiditm (talk) 10:10, 30 August 2011 (UTC)Reply

You cannot mathematically combine and average percents. The cumulative totals section is not correct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.194.184.230 (talk) 15:14, 23 September 2011 (UTC)Reply

Ordering

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Given the fact that more recent straw polls are are generally considered to be more relevant than ones that are a year old, should we revers the order and put the latest straw polls at the top? 76.194.211.63 (talk) 18:16, 30 October 2011 (UTC)Reply

Correction on West Alabama Straw Poll

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According to the source article, Gary Johnson and Rick Santorum both got one vote. This probably should be corrected on the article page.

http://blog.al.com/tuscaloosa/2011/10/herman_cain_tuscaloosa.html "Other candidates who received votes in the straw poll were Newt Gingrich (5), Rick Perry (5), Mitt Romney (3), Gary Johnson (1), Rick Santorum (1)." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.109.25.121 (talk) 17:31, 8 November 2011 (UTC)Reply

Map

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Missouri needs recoloring blue after the full results were added. Light-jet pilot (talk) 18:58, 27 November 2011 (UTC)Reply

Iowa

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Why is Iowa coloured gold for a Ron Paul win, when Michele Bachmann won the Iowa straw poll? Tiller54 (talk) 12:38, 28 November 2011 (UTC)Reply

Because Ron Paul won the most recent Iowa straw poll (see October 29, 2011, Des Moines, Iowa - National Federation of Republican Assemblies Presidential Straw Poll) Light-jet pilot (talk) 21:03, 28 November 2011 (UTC)Reply
Ah, OK. Thanks Tiller54 (talk) 20:17, 7 December 2011 (UTC)Reply

Map issue - from village pump

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From Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)#Falsified_document "If you look up 2012 straw poll results and find the map of U.S.A. you will find someone has changed the state of illinois to look like Newt Gingrich won the straw poll there. This is a Lie. Dr.Ron Paul won illinois, someone should please change the color of illinois back to yellow as to keep wikipedia as accurate as possible." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ronpaul2 (talkcontribs) 23:47, 6 December 2011 (UTC)Reply

Yes, this is an error. The one on Nov 18 is only for Springfield. The reference for state wide straw poll is here. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 14:37, 7 December 2011 (UTC)Reply

Another map issue — how about the exit polls of primary election?

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The reader sees first the excellent map graphic "latest polling" and it is quite obviously not keeping current. It is not the latest. Look at Florida that went for Romney. Look at the three states that Santorum swept: MN, IA, MO. Compare the map in this article (latest polling) with the map of 'won states' in the main article, [[1]] and ask what can be done to make the map reflect "latest polling"? Is the answer to have the AP exit polling? Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 14:01, 12 February 2012 (UTC) PS: I realize this Article is an encyclopedic and historic reporting of the 'straw polls', but it seems woefully 'not current'. What can one do???Reply

Overlink?

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Why is every instance of the candidates linked? Is this not overlinking? doktorb wordsdeeds 12:15, 8 December 2011 (UTC)Reply

TWITTER is on the rise (consider polling implications some day soon)

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Here is a little twitter we had on Republican_Party_presidential_primaries,_2012:

Twitter Poll

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Is there any point in including a Twitter based poll here or in a related page? e.g. that compares the relative number of followers or mentions of candidates? e.g. http://tpredict.com/predict.php?predictId=41 The split of followers for Romney v Santorum 69/31 correlates with their delegate count (568 v 273). But the split including Gingrich and Paul looks very strange with Newt winning the follower battle. http://tpredict.com/predict.php?predictId=154 Is there value to this data in any of the articles? Obviously, it is verifiable fact (since all data is accessible at Twitter.com) but is it neutral or relevant? Uptodateinfo (talk) 10:15, 30 March 2012 (UTC)Reply

There is an article with strawpolls, it sounds like it would be the place to put it. Straw polls for the Republican Party presidential primaries, 2012 Jack Bornholm (talk) 11:07, 30 March 2012 (UTC)Reply

Twitter is on the rise and I'm ramping up myself. Jack's point is well-spoken: put it in the 'Straw Poll' article. Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 14:58, 30 March 2012 (UTC)Reply
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Would you care to comment? Can we discuss here? TIA, Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 15:06, 30 March 2012 (UTC)Reply

There is absolutely no credibility in a poll of this kind. Wikipedia has very strict rules and guidance on social media. To extract any kind of statistic from an arbitrary snapshot in time is a complete non-starter. No merit whatever exists in this proposal. doktorb wordsdeeds 21:30, 30 March 2012 (UTC)Reply

Perhaps a poll is not the right way to characterise this. In particular since the politically minded could follow all 4 candidates. Plus followers does not imply support. It is more a comparison of followers. Separately, could someone point me to the rules and guidance on social media. Much appreciated. Uptodateinfo (talk) 13:45, 2 April 2012 (UTC)Reply