Talk:Strong Bad

Original research?

Since there's never been a book, newspaper, or magazine published about Strong Bad, isn't this entire article considered original research? I sure hope not, since I'd rather not see it go. Ralphael 18:07, 4 February 2006 (UTC) Hah, apparently primary sources are sometimes allowed. Nevermind. :D Ralphael 20:24, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Accent?

I've never heard a mexican who sounded like him...his accent isn't really straight mexican.

I was the one who put that, his accent isn't mexican anymore, but it definitely had a mexican thing to it in the early years, you know, on the easter egg strong bad soundboard, he uses that accent, and says stuff like noooooothing!

Relationship to Homestar Runner Wiki

The Strong Bad page had all kinds of strange information on it, like a picture and a description of Sterrance (ostensibly relevant because it was Strong Bad's self-portrait "if he were a little animal") (?) I tried my best to pare down the entry to its encyclopedic minimum and direct people to the Homestar Runner Wiki for further information. I'm trying to hammer out a philosophy of how to separate a "Wikipedia" encyclopedic information from a "Homestar Runner Wiki" fanstuff, and I'm trying to channel this discussion towards the discussion page for the Homestar Runner Wiki template... metaeducation

Georgia?

"Georgian" Flash animators? This made me think they are from Georgia(the former Soviet republic in the Caucusus). I have replaced this with "American."

How about we replace that with "Animators from the American state Georgia?" or something along the lines of that --JoeBlowfromKokomo 21:21, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Dear Strong Bad, how do you type with boxing gloves on?

I removed the bolds from, "A common misconception is that Strong Bad is wearing gloves and a mask; they are literally his hands and face." "Literally" means just that, and it doesn't need emphasis as if, "No, I really mean literally." Sentence is good without bolds/italics. SaltyPig 03:28, 4 Feb 2005 UTC

You would think so, but people are really dense when it comes to Strong Bad's physiology. -- Cyrius|✎ 05:27, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I've never understood why this point gets brought up so much anyway. The origin seems to have been only a casual mention in an interview with the Chapmans. It's not like it's crucial to understanding or appreciating anything at Homestar Runner, but some people talk about it like it's the secret to the whole place. (thanks for the formatting, BTW.) SaltyPig 06:00, 4 Feb 2005 UTC

It dates back at least as far as Strong Bad email #1. It's not crucial, but The Brothers Chaps have stated that an incredible percentage of the emails Strong Bad gets are variations on it. That they get so many of them shows that there's a need to state it explicitly. -- Cyrius|✎ 14:46, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Well yeah, they get tons of emails asking how he types with boxing gloves on (which matt has theorized are now often done in an attempt to get one of those answered because it irritates Strong Bad), but saying that the boxing gloves are his hands answers nothing. "Okay, they're his actual hands. Now, how does he type with boxing gloves for hands?" It's only a dumb question in that there's obviously no answer, not because it's been answered that the gloves are his hands. Isn't it great talking about the important issues of the day? ROFL SaltyPig 05:17, 5 Feb 2005 UTC

Villain or Anti-hero

I noticed the changes/reverts to the article. Reading Anti-hero, it looks more like he is a villain to me. Strong Bad seems to just do things for himself, kind of a "because I want to/can" thing, not to fight for good or for a cause (except his own wants). He cons others into doing things for him, he prank calls, he kicks The Cheat, taunts his brother Strong Sad, etc. He's a likable villain, but still a villain of a sort, I think. --AshyRaccoon 03:32, Apr 10, 2005 (UTC)

Exactly why I keep reverting it. Strong Bad is the protagonist, but he is not heroic in any way. -- Cyrius|✎ 14:18, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

This villain thing is out of control. The article now says he's the "primary villain". What other villains are there? Strong Mad? Can somebody propose a bold, sensible change here and execute it? I'm wondering why this is such a sticking point for some. Can we just say he's "one of the more popular characters" and move on? Something like that? It's hard to explain what Strong Bad is; maybe people should just go there and figure it out, rather than trying to pass on what might actually be impossible. -- SaltyPig 15:30, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

He's a villain. He only thinks of himself, his 1936 self has a 'stache, and Stinkoman enjoys beating people up. What more proof do you need? --Stlunko 404 04:37, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

Stinkoman is somewhat less of a villainous example, given the source material he parodies. He enjoys a good fight, but doesn't appear to get much pleasure from "beating up" innocents, (How else to explain 1-Up (20X6's version of Homestar)'s continued survival?) which qualifies him as more a martial arts hero than a villain. For Sir Strong Bad, yes, he's a villain.

However, Strong Bad himself is really tough to categorize in traditional storytelling terms because he's defined more in terms of himself and his relationships than in terms of his function to the plot; in various toons, he has been used as a villain, a hero, an anti-hero, and a commentator on the action of the story. Thanks,
Luc "Somethingorother" French 21:20, 30 July 2005 (UTC)

MUSICIAN?!?

Why is he in the "Fictional Musicians" category? Also, there should be a Stinkoman page. --207.69.139.139 05:55, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

He regularly sings; Heck, he even released a CD. (trogga)

Its called "Strong Bad Sings And Other Type Hits" so i think that is basis for being a fictional musician. SpokaneWilly 23:41, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

But still he sings and they're not bad songs honestly. And I think Crack Stuntman should be on here. ♥♥♥ (Trogdor14)

Strong Bad & Power Rangers

Is mentioning that SB's mask looks like the helmet of the Red SPD Ranger even relevant? Strong Bad's been around since 1996 or '97 when the Brothers Chaps did the first kids' book, which was seven years before "Dekaranger" aired over in Japan, so if anything, there'd have to be a reverse connection (Toei copying off of HSR). --Cardinal biggles 17:39, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

There's no way Power Rangers is copying Homestar Runner. The similarity is undeniable, so it should be noted. Just because something says it's similar doesn't mean it's copying something, riiight? Darth Katana X 07:22, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Main Character

They changed this over in the HSR wiki, and I'm trying to fight for that over there, too, but really, at this point it seems obvious that Strong Bad is the MAIN character in HSR, not "a" main character or a co-star. I'm sorry to all the Homestar fans out there, but come on; the evidence is overwhelming.

I guess it all depends on your definition of "main character." You could say SB is one of the 12 main characters like Homestar, Marzipan, Coach Z, Bubs... Or if you want to say that he is the main character because he gets the most screen time by a long shot, then I would agree with you. The first sentence can always be reworded to reduce confusion. How about we do that? —BazookaJoe 23:21, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, but Wikipedia doesn't follow any teenybopper format, it follows the hard facts. So just because Homestar Runner Wiki says something, that doesn't mean we should use it here. — Darth Katana X (talk/edits/numetal)

Uh, what are the hard facts when it comes to defining a main character? You care to weigh in with your opinion regarding my last post, or are you just going to sit and complain about the HRWiki? By the way, articles at the HRWiki are way better than H*R articles at Wikipedia, simply because these are so neglected and unloved. —BazookaJoe 23:50, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

You've improperly defined "Main Character" with your assumption that the Main Character is defined by the one with the most screen time. I can agree that SB is the main character in sbemails, but in the toons, he's not always the focus. Homestar Runner is the "Main" character overall since it's his site ("What happened to my website?"), the domain name is Homestar Runner's name (www.homestarrunner.com). Also, the main character always gets the girl. —Dacle00 12:31, 09 Oct 2006 (EST)

Well, seeing as though the title of the site is HomestarRunner.com, I'd say Homestar is the main character. But I think all those 12 characters mentioned by you are the main characters. — JeremyTalk 11:35, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm taking college level screenwriting, wherein we study plot structure and character defenitions. If we are speaking of the creation of the characters, in the original children's book Homestar is the protagonist, he's the one with the problem in the beginning of the story and the plan to enter the contest. Strong Bad is the Antagonist. Whether he is villian or anti hero is a moot point, because the story is not cannonical, it doesn't build off the original story, it doesn't follow a set time sequence. The point of view is different, in one Pom Pom is the protagonist. In answering machine Marzipan is the protagonist. In many, albeit very many, Strong Bad is the protagonist. To say one is the main character is an false statement in an episodical creation where the point of view changes from episode to episode. I think we've put this argument to bed. Quick silver20 06:04, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

My update got BALEETED

How comes my add about Strongbad's candy product got BALEETED? It's the awesomest Strong Bad Email yet!

Well, if we mentioned his candy product, we'd have to mention his pop-up book, his kids' show, his action figure, and his Ab-Abber 2000. Oh, and sign your posts, please. --Jnelson09 22:43, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

I think the entire article should be redone as about 90% of it is irrelevant. This is one of the worst articles I have seen on wikipedia. It reads more like a fractured essay or amateur journalism. Apparently, very few Strong Bad fans understand what is expected in an encyclopedia entry. I suppose we could have guessed that. --Wicked 08:51, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Strong Bad picture not working

Why doesn't the Strong Bad picture work? Image:NonFreeImageRemoved.svg exists, and the template obviously points to it, but it doesn't show. It works for Strong Sad, though. I've tried, but can't figure out the problem. Can someone with more experience track this down? Much appreciated. — JeremyTalk 08:43, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

There appears to be a big going on, this image displays at all sizes except for 180px (the size in the template). I've updated the template to use 181px, and am listing this on WP:VPT.

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• [[Image:NonFreeImageRemoved.svg<!-- Strong Bad.png -->|180px|Strong Bad]]
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• [[Image:NonFreeImageRemoved.svg<!-- Strong Bad.png -->|181px|Strong Bad]]
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Works now, after a cache purge. Don't know if that fixed it or if it was some other transient issue. —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 16:23, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Asplode?

"Asplode" redirects here, but there's no explanation of the term. Maybe someone with better HSR knowledge could add that in? TheContralto 17:03, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Asplode refers to "Your Head A Splode" from Strongbadzone, a game on the website. It is a parody of 3D vector games like Battlezone. You control a "cyber spikey haired guy with a cyber shield" and try to destroy Strong Bad's giant floating 3D head by deflecting the things he shoots at you, "or face significant 3D doom". The quote "Your Head A Splode" is what happens when you get hit.

Strong Badia

Hey, should there be a mention of Strong Badia in the article?--Xlegiofalco 03:56, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Good idea! Get started on it!--Alexandermiller 06:29, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

To be honest, i still dont know what im doing (im trying to learn, but... *sigh), can anyone insert the link from the Strong Badia article, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strong_Badia . For that matter, i wonder how many other Strong Bad related articles out there need to be included too.--Xlegiofalco 08:33, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

I made a section, but it could use a bit more info, but not a lot. It does have a link to the Strong Badia article.Tuesday42 20:36, 25 August 2006 (UTC)````

can someone rig a redirect from SBEmail to this page, im a n00b and i dont really know how.Kiran90 12:34, 2 September 2006 (UTC) v

Sure, im learning myself too. Go to "edit this page" tab at top of article. To place a link to anything anywhere on the edit page (preferably at the bottom), just type 2 Braces [[ ]] on either side of the web address is one way. Like so [[1]] The SBEmail link is there already, at the bottom. And welcome to wikipedia, its nice to have you.--Xlegiofalco 16:02, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Lappynapped

In the latest SBEMAIL, Strong Bad's lappy was kidnapped. I wrote that down in the article, but it was deleted. If, by the next SBEMAIL it isn't resolved, we should write it back. KdogDS 22:08, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

I deleeted it, for that very reason. If it isn't resolved next email, don't put it back please. (If he uses someone elses computer before hand, wait.Tuesday42 02:11, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

You can put it back now.Tuesday42 20:48, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Fictional Rappers Category

Does Strong Bad really belong there? I know he's rapped, but so have various random cartoon characters.Tuesday42 21:54, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Strong Bad is grouchy. —Brian Barbera 22:26, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

That doesn't answer my question at all. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tuesday42 (talk • contribs) 03:23, 3 May 2007 (UTC).

This is odd..

Why are there spoiler tags? ---Lazylaces-Helping Wikipedians since.. um.. for almost a year! Lazylaces (talk • contribs 22:26, 27 December 2006 (UTC) Because of the 'Lappynapped' story arc. See the email 'cliffhangers' and then 'retirement' and you should get it.Tuesday42 02:45, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

DNA Evidence

In some of the e-mails, Marzipan, Homsar and Homestarrunner mention something about "DNA Evidence." For example, in the Strong Badathlon e-mail, Marzipan and Homsar are having tea and Marzipan says that said evidence had been "tampered with." Where did this storyline come from?

Please sign your posts. Now, if you'd like to find out, there is an episode titled "DNA Evidence" on Homestarrunner.com. WAtch it to find out! (dun-dun!) --Kevin 20 5 23 26 01:04, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Strong Bad Drinks

"He enjoys "cold ones" (or beer), although we never see him drinking on the website."

I have deleted this. It is untrue. DanTheShrew (talk) 23:52, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Actually, this is really quite true. You can see Strong Bad, Bubz, and other characters drinking "Cold Ones, Not-so-cold Ones, and even Warm Ones" in various videos on occasion, see the SBEmail "Explosion" (the one where Strong Bad destroys the Lappy) for an example. Jdaniels15 (talk) 15:17, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

Cool Game for Attractive People

This article would have a bit more content if you gave the game series a small section, covering the basic features of the games. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 21:08, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Source 20 (the podcast)

In the podcast for source 20, talking about a second season of Strong Bad's Cool Game For Attractive People, the people talking in that podcast said, "They (the developers) haven't made an announcement, but it all depends on how it sells, I'm sure." The fact that the developers haven't made an announcement means this is only their opinion. 67.162.131.80 (talk) 16:17, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

The 'S' Is For Sucks

Shouldn't the S' is for Sucks dragon get some mention in the article? I mean, Strong Bad DID sing a song about him. And he was originally a prototype of TROGDOR, but was later made to be a different character altogether in the song "The S is for Sucks". Jdaniels15 (talk) 18:18, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

The Avengers?

This says that the album was reissued to promote The Avengers. Unsourced, and makes no sense. Can someone explain?-98.213.49.237 (talk) 10:16, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

This is false. The album came out LONG before The Avengers was even announced. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.126.56.92 (talk) 18:29, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

Since this unsourced, bizarre and implausible factoid has been in the article for over a year without somebody adding a source, I'm deleting it. 123.243.147.193 (talk) 12:44, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

Trogdor

Trogdor redirects to the Strong Bad article (at the time of this writing). More Trogdor talk is at: Trogdor Talk page on Wikipedia 63.231.28.164 (talk) 17:20, 11 April 2014 (UTC)