Talk:Strong Zero

Requested move 30 November 2022

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The result of the move request was: moved. Unopposed. (closed by non-admin page mover) – robertsky (talk) 03:20, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

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−196°C Strong Zero → Strong Zero – WP:COMMONNAME and WP:CONCISE. Although the current title appears to be the full name of the product, multiple cited English-language sources refer to it simply as Strong Zero, which is more concise. The simpler title is also the primary name shown on the product label. I previously renamed the article to use proper minus sign and degree symbols, but it appears that it would have been better to just remove the temperature expression entirely. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 00:46, 30 November 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. echidnaLives - talk - edits 11:04, 7 December 2022 (UTC)

Relisting comment: Relisting due to no participation echidnaLives - talk - edits 11:04, 7 December 2022 (UTC)

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Style of English

See WP:ENGVAR. The article initially was written using American spelling conventions ('flavor'/'labeling'/'labeled'). I believe that is the most common variation of English found in Japan, which is the product's primary market.

However, an IP editor just added a significant amount of content focused on the Australian market, and those edits used Australian spelling. Which spelling style should the article use? Considering that the product is now on the Australian market and that this is its only English-primary market, unless there is an objection, I think it is reasonable to switch the article to use Australian spelling consistently. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 19:49, 10 January 2023 (UTC)

Article conflates -196 and Strong Zero

The article in its current form appears to be conflating -196 as a product line and "Strong Zero" that is specifically 9% alcohol low sugar drinks, noting that Suntory has 6% and recently also 4% drinks that aren't "Strong" and sometimes aren't 無糖 either.

There is the separate related issue that "Strong" and even "Strong Zero" aren't trademark protected and are a generic name for similar products from other brands. I presume this is the primary reason why Suntory has recently made the -196 more prominent in its branding in Japan. I'd expect an article on "Strong Zero" to be about something like "8-10% alcohol low sugar chu-his" (with a likely focus on Suntory) rather than Suntory's -196 product line. Captain Segfault (talk) 23:54, 22 November 2024 (UTC)