Talk:Student quarter

Name

The name of this article is inherently not NPOV. Perhaps it should be changed to student neighbourhood. Stifle 21:21, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

How is it any more POV than the word ghetto? Or gay ghetto? It's a phrase used by many. Darkcore 23:45, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Using the word "ghetto" is not POV. It a community dominated by college students, which - although not an ethnic group - fits the defition of a ghetto. Jzcrandall (talk) 19:20, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure that this title would be understood, or be considered appropriate, in Europe, where the word ghetto still has unfortunate associations [1]. I'm nearly 60 years old and have never heard a phrase like this in the UK, or Germany, or France. Student quarter or Univeristy quarter yes. ghetto no. Manchester and Groningen have well-established Student districts. Merely fitting a dictionary definition does not repersent all the subtelties of the connotations of a word. I rather think this page should be re-named. --Brunnian (talk) 15:49, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Please ask at Wikipedia:Requested moves as I am sure some people will hold opinions on this. Abductive (reasoning) 21:44, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Although I agree that "ghetto" is POV due to negative connotations and probably should not be the title of this article. I have to disagree that the term "student ghetto" is not widely used in the UK (where I am from). It is definitely the most widely used term, probably due to tabloid media coverage which view them with vehement derision, but is also used by the more 'respected' press and students (I am a student in Leeds) who do not view such places negatively. A simple search for the words 'student ghetto' will bring up thousands of articles to validate this. As it stands I think 'student quarter' is most suitable. (86.128.50.52 (talk) 19:11, 26 July 2010 (UTC))

Others

What about Greenwich Village in New York City? (New York University (NYU), The New School, and Yeshiva University) — Rickyrab | Talk 02:58, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

I think The Fan and Oregon Hill in Richmond, Virginia should be included in this article, as they are both pre-dominated by students from Virginia Commonwealth University. Jzcrandall (talk) 19:20, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: page moved. Vegaswikian (talk) 08:47, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

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Student ghetto → Student Quarter

• The word 'Ghetto' has unfortunate associations Brunnian (talk) 14:35, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
• The word Ghetto might well be considered inappropriate in many societies. See my remarks above. It has been suggested that I use the 'requested move' template, so I have suggested Student Quarter, although the exact form of replacement will probably be the subject of further debate. I'd be just as happy with Student District for example.Brunnian (talk) 14:35, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

• Do you have evidence of this usage? Abductive (reasoning) 07:15, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

A quick google search shows that it the useage well enough known in the UK for two businesses to use it as a trading name!

http://www.macmillandictionary.com/dictionary/british/quarter#quarter_12 is a dictionary example of exactly this usage

http://www.ldoceonline.com/dictionary/quarter_1 is from a different dictionary

and not just in Britain: in Paris the Quartier Latin is also sometimes known as the student quarter, between the Sorbonne and the Panthéon.

I can also give web links to perjorative uses of the phrase:

http://www.chesterchronicle.co.uk/chester-news/local-chester-news/2009/08/13/handbridge-residents-fear-student-ghetto-if-university-of-chester-takes-over-county-hall-59067-24394794/

http://www.student-direct.co.uk/2009/09/manchester-to-clamp-down-on-student-ghettos/

http://www.politics.co.uk/opinion-formers/press-releases/housing-and-planning/rla-warns-of-student-ghettos-after-new-government-measures-announced-$1356331$1352570.htm

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/north-east-news/todays-evening-chronicle/2009/06/25/councillor-calls-for-purpose-built-student-ghettos-72703-23973810/

(The british press knows how to be perjorative! They are whipping up conflict here.)

I am not the only person who thinks the word ghetto has hidden associations:

http://theboar.ca/2010/03/the-student-ghetto-a-problematic-use-of-terms/

I'm not unaware that the expression student ghetto is used in the USA, but I think that outside that culture it carries baggage that people using it on a day-by-day basis seem unaware of.--Brunnian (talk) 13:34, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

• Oppose WP:UCN 76.66.192.73 (talk) 05:24, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

That's rather my point. It might be a common name in one English-speaking country, but it is definitely not in others.Brunnian (talk) 13:36, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

A google-test shows "student ghetto" gets more hits. And your sole contention is that it has bad connotations. WP:NOTCENSORED. 76.66.192.73 (talk) 04:37, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

• Support, NPOV. Stifle (talk) 13:52, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

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Student Ghetto

Bold textThis Montreal area was never know as a Ghetto area, I have lived here for years, born and bred, prior to moving to the US, can anyone verify my statement. I am presently in St-Laurent, 1 mile north of Montreal and the reference "Ghetto" in Montreal does not define Montreal. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/ghettohttp://www.thefreedictionary.com/ghetto — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kandyman (talk • contribs) 22:47, 23 April 2011 (UTC)