Talk:Submarine-launched ballistic missile

Latest comment: 4 years ago by Wfoj3 in topic Post Cold War section

Who has 'em?

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If the article is going to specifically mention the US, Russia, and Israel, it seems like it should mention all the countries with known or suspected SLBMs. Tempshill 23:13, 7 August 2006 (UTC)Reply

Such a section could indeed be added, with proper references. Regarding Israel, it would seem that their vessels are capable of nuclear-tipped cruise missiles and not ballistic missiles. Still, could be kept along with a see also section with SSG and SSGN. Scoo 06:18, 8 August 2006 (UTC)Reply


Given that Dolphin class submarine and the source of its source (http://www.fas.org/news/israel/e20000619fearsof.htm) both state that they are cruise missles and not ballistic missles, I am removing that paragraph. It can be added to SLCM if someone wishes to do that. (Tragic Story 20:06, 20 September 2007 (UTC))Reply

Cruise missiles and ballistic missiles

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You'll note that the article about the Brahmos weapon states that it's a cruise missile, not a ballistic missile. The two are very different beasts since the cruise is under propulsion for the majority of free flight, whereas the ballistic has an initial burn, then is unpowered until a mid flight second or third stage which injects further power. Given that the Brahmos is a cruise missile, and not a ballistic missile I'll remove it again.

x-posting this to the article talk page.

ALR (talk) 16:09, 18 July 2008 (UTC)Reply

Nuclear Warheads

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The article currently states that SLBMs have nuclear warheads - whilst this is currently true, there is no reason why a conventional SLBM could not exist (the US was looking at conventional Trident at one point), so something along the lines of "all SLBMs currently in service carry a nuclear warhead" woud seem more appropriate.Jellyfish dave (talk) 16:18, 21 October 2010 (UTC)Reply

Ballistic missiles carry only nuclear warheads - reason: If SLBM (or ICBM) is launched it is for "other side" impossible to recognize what kind of warhead is on it installed. Exception is tests of missiles with tests warheads which launches are reported some days ahead. Incidentally US deny conventional warheads for BM.--Hornet24 (talk) 19:09, 21 October 2010 (UTC)Reply
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Babur SLCM

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Hi Zagham I did see the sources you have provided they are indeed valid and reliable. The issue is not them but your misunderstanding. Babur is Cruise Missile and it's submarine launched version is thus a Submarine Launched Cruise Missile (SLCM). This page is meant for Submarine Launched Cruise Missile (SLBM). There is a difference between a cruise missile and a ballistic missile. Feel free to chime into the discussion here and not edit war the article. Thanks. Adamgerber80 (talk) 12:07, 3 August 2017 (UTC)Reply

Post Cold War section

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"New SSBN construction terminated for over 10 years in Russia and slowed in the US with the collapse of the Soviet Union and the end of the Cold War in 1991."- Really misleading. US Stopped building in the 1970s as reached their imitial objectives for force levels. AS they Ohios were built - the Existing SSBN had to be decomissioned / converted based on Nuclear Weapons treaty limits. Then "This makes them immune to a first strike directed against nuclear forces, allowing each side to maintain the capability to launch a devastating retaliatory strike, even if all land-based missiles have been destroyed" - recall the 2009 collusion at Sea of a United Kingdom and a French SSBN with each other - see HMS Vanguard and Le Triomphant submarine collision — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wfoj3 (talkcontribs) 14:09, 7 November 2020 (UTC)Reply