Talk:Suharto/GA1

GA Reassessment

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This article has been reviewed as part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles/Project quality task force in an effort to ensure all listed Good articles continue to meet the Good article criteria. In reviewing the article, I have found there are some issues that may need to be addressed, listed below. I will check back in seven days. If these issues are addressed, the article will remain listed as a Good article. Otherwise, it may be delisted (such a decision may be challenged through WP:GAR). If improved after it has been delisted, it may be nominated at WP:GAN. Feel free to drop a message on my talk page if you have any questions, and many thanks for all the hard work that has gone into this article thus far.

• There are at least six unsatisfied requests for citation, some of them in place since January 2008.

• There is one dead link.[1]

• The article should be consistent in its use of either British or American English spelling. I see both "favoured" and "honor", for example.

• Date formats need to be consistent. At the start of Power struggle for instance, the date is given as "2 October", but at the beginning of Abortive coup and anti-communist purge it's given as September 30.

• Some of the prose is rather dense, for instance:
  • Guerrilla warfare and victory
    • (This section is almost completely uncited.)
    • "It is widely believed that the humiliating nature of this defeat engrained a sense of guilt in Suharto ...". Widely believed by who?
    • "The attack yielded some ammunition and a few light arms; as propaganda and psychological warfare it had filled the desired effect, however — civilians sympathetic to the Nationalist cause within the city had been galvanized by the show of force, and internationally, the United Nations took notice, with the Security Council putting pressure on the Dutch to cease Police Action and to re-embark on negotiations." So many problems just with that one (far too long) sentence. Why is "Police Action" capitalised anyway?
    • "Suharto's efforts to regain the national honor ...". The previous paragraph talked about Suharto's honor, not the national honor.
  • Return of the Dutch
    • "Political differences within both the Allies and the civilian Nationalist forces caused the conflict to alternate in intensity from the end of 1945 into first months of 1946, as negotiations went on between the leaderships of the Indonesian Nationalists and the Dutch in between periods of fighting." The word "alternate" is curious here, as it implies a switch between two states. Probably "vary" is what's really meant here? There's also a missing "the" in front of "first months of 1946".
    • "The commercial dealings of Tien, her children and grandchildren would become extensive and ultimately undermine Suharto's presidency." Tenses don't work here. Should be "became extensive and ultimately undermined ..."
  • Overthrow of Sukarno (1965)
    • "By late 1965, the army was divided between a left-wing faction allied with the PKI, and a right-wing faction that were being courted from abroad by the United States." Tenses don't match.
    • "Backed by elements of the armed forces, the insurgents, commanded the Presidential Palace opposite Merdeka Square ...". "Commanded is an usual choice of word here. Presumably it means they occupied, or took control of those places?
    • "On the night of 30 September, Suharto had been in hospital preoccupied with a scalding injury to his three-year old son Tommy, and where Colonel Abdul Latief was the only principal of ensuing events with whom Suharto spoke that evening." Don't understand what "principal of ensuing events" means.
    • ""Upon being told of the disappearance of the generals and shootings ...". So the shootings disappeared along with the generals?
    • "As a result of the purge, one of Sukarno's three pillars of support, the Indonesian Communist Party, had been effectively eliminated by the other two ...". Should be "was effectively eliminated".
  • The economy
    • "Suharto brought a shift in policy from firebrand Sukarno". Language like this needs to be toned down.
    • "Subsidies on basics such as food and fuel to maintain grass-roots support were highly costly to government budgets." They weren't a cost the budget, but to the government.
  • Politics and dissent
    • "The pattern of co-opting a few of his more powerful opponents while criminalising the rest became a hallmark of Suharto's rule." Statements like this really must be attributed, else they look like the personal opinion of the author.
    • "After the 1990s brought end of the Cold War ...". Missing "the".

• The prose problems I've identified above are not a comprehensive list, rather a representative sample of the kinds of things that the whole article needs to be checked for.

--Malleus Fatuorum 14:24, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Comment A quick skim through the article and I see that some sections have far fewer sources than others. I would think we'd want to have this article with about the same number of references/incline sitations in each section, or about the same density of them. Hires an editor (talk) 17:30, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

• Thanks for the work that's been done here, and particular thanks to Merbabu. I think the article is now back to GA status, and so I'm closing this review now. --Malleus Fatuorum 18:57, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.