Talk:Sultanate of Dahlak/GA1

Latest comment: 6 years ago by LeGabrie in topic GA Review

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Reviewer: Gog the Mild (talk · contribs) 16:03, 23 March 2018 (UTC)Reply

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Good Article Status - Review Criteria

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Review

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  1. Well-written:
  2. Criteria Notes Result
    (a) (prose) The reviewer has no notes here.   Pass
    (b) (MoS) The reviewer has no notes here.   Pass
  3. Verifiable with no original research:
  4. Criteria Notes Result
    (a) (references) The reviewer has no notes here.   Pass
    (b) (citations to reliable sources) The reviewer has no notes here.   Pass
    (c) (original research) The reviewer has no notes here.   Pass
    (d) (copyvio and plagiarism) The reviewer has no notes here.   Pass
  5. Broad in its coverage:
  6. Criteria Notes Result
    (a) (major aspects) The reviewer has no notes here.   Pass
    (b) (focused) The reviewer has no notes here.   Pass
  7. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.
  8. Notes Result
    The reviewer has no notes here.   Pass
  9. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.
  10. Notes Result
    The reviewer has no notes here.   Pass
  11. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
  12. Criteria Notes Result
    (a) (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales) The reviewer has no notes here.   Pass
    (b) (appropriate use with suitable captions) The reviewer has no notes here.   Pass

Result

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Result Notes
  Pass A short article covering all that is known on this topic. Very firmly referenced and nicely written. Good work. Gog the Mild (talk) 21:23, 23 March 2018 (UTC)Reply

Discussion

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References.

  • Please add ISBN numbers.
  • Move van Donzel et al one down, to put the list in alphabetic order.
  • Footnotes 4, 8, 12, 13, 14 don't link to their citations.

Prose

  • "The Muslims of Dahlak were probably not overly successful in proselytizing what now constitutes Eritrea, since Christianity was still too established." This doesn't, IMO, really work as a sentence. What is "still" trying to communicate? And it doesn't seem to me to actually give a reason for the failure of proselytization.

@Gog the Mild: Fixed the references as proposed. I also tried to rephrase your quoted sentence a bit. What I want to say is that the local church was already centuries old at the time of the arrival of the Muslims, hindering easy proselytization. Historically, Islam didn't start to spread in Eritrea until the 15th/16th century, though right now I lack a concrete source I can quote that from. Will eventually include that in the article later. LeGabrie (talk) 19:20, 23 March 2018 (UTC) Fixed broken footnotes. LeGabrie (talk) 19:20, 23 March 2018 (UTC)Reply

LeGabrie Based on what you wrote above I have had a go myself at a form of words re proselytization. If you don't like it, don't hesitate to revert. This is GA anyway. Nice work. Gog the Mild (talk) 21:23, 23 March 2018 (UTC)Reply
User:Gog the Mild I will probably change it as soon as I have a valid source concerning the start of mass Islamization in Eritrea. Thanks again for your time. Time to get a featured article ready next. LeGabrie (talk) 21:37, 23 March 2018 (UTC)Reply

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