Talk:Sun Sentinel/Archives/ 1

Requested move 7 April 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) {{ping|ClydeFranklin}} (t/c) 00:41, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

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Sun-Sentinel → Sun Sentinel – I am surprised there's a history of moving this page back and forth since 2008. My issue here is perhaps the last discussion from 2020 shouldn't have been closed, but it is what it is.

My reasoning for the name omitting the dash (or hyphen) comes down to this:

• The Florida Press Association lists them as South Florida Sun Sentinel [1]
• Their own website shows the name in CamelCase and the footer says "Copyright © 2023, Sun Sentinel"
• Their social media presence does not use the dash.
• The only usage of the dash is now with the website domain. Maybe they added the dash because it goes to another website? Nope! sunsentinel.com goes to the same place. At this point, I think a webmaster is having some fun changing how to display the name of this newspaper. We know they used the dash until 2008. We are still debating this 15 years later? Let's have some sanity here, please! – The Grid (talk) 15:36, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
• Support. I was curious and I searched, on Google, "sun sentinel" site:washingtonpost.com and "sun sentinel" site:nytimes.com (I tried it both with and without "-" but Google didn't care) and saw only references without "-" in the recent decade or so while stores before 2010 or so used the "-" so I'd say it definitely shifted. (Another tangential but related piece of evidence: Tribune Publishing also owns The Virginia-Pilot which does have a "-" in their current styling and the Washington Post seems to have included the "-" for the Pilot in the same years they did not include it for the Sentinel.) CNN.com is more mixed; both apnews.com and reuters.com are almost exclusively with a space. Given the usages I've seen, it'd support a space with no prior context but also supports a space given that is their official name and it seems like a space is more common than a dash and gaining in popularity. I don't put much credence in the website anymore since changing domains is something most publishers are loathe to do and "-" is a common replacement for spaces so they probably think it's fine to not change. Skynxnex (talk) 03:43, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
• Support As one of the largest users of newspapers.com on this encyclopedia — including this paper for Miami and West Palm Beach broadcasting articles — this RM caught my attention. The removal of the hyphen took place on August 17, 2008, and accompanied the temporary removal of "South Florida" from the masthead. However, even the column about the changes used the hyphen! However, it has been rendered without a dash fairly consistently since, particularly in the years after the change. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 04:29, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

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