Talk:Sunshine of Your Love

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Single release

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Billboard Spotlight tips use advance-issue press promos. Several other references place the release in 1968: Owsinski (1/68)[1], Haas (1/68)[2], Welch (2/68)[3], Leszczak (1968)[4]. Billboard first lists a radio station playing it 1/6/68. [5] Unless there are other RSs which show a December 1967 release date, January 1968 should be used. —Ojorojo (talk) 20:11, 14 November 2016 (UTC)Reply

The tracking week for the Hot 100 ended 11 to 13 days prior to the issue date, so the tracking week for the January 6, 1968 Bubbling Under chart would have been December 26, 1967. Cash Box, which was a sales chart, worked similarly. "Sunshine of Your Love" appeared on the Cash Box Looking Ahead chart the week ending December 30, 1967 which would have had a sales tracking week ending December 17 or 19, 1967. Piriczki (talk) 20:39, 14 November 2016 (UTC)Reply
The December 16, 1967 issue of Record World has an advertisement for the new Cream single "Sunshine of Your Love" and the single is mentioned in the "Money Music" column in that issue and also in the December 23 issue. Piriczki (talk) 21:10, 14 November 2016 (UTC)Reply
Another point is that the essential qualification for a record on the Billboard charts was its commercial availability as a single. Piriczki (talk) 02:29, 15 November 2016 (UTC)Reply
I don't have access to these other journals, so I'll assume good faith that they support a December 1967 release date. Citations to the best of these sources should be included. It's odd that the music writers/biographers (including Chris Welch) didn't pick up on this. —Ojorojo (talk) 14:53, 15 November 2016 (UTC)Reply
Additionally, 45.cat[6] places the release in December 1967.107.185.97.165 (talk) 12:33, 23 June 2018 (UTC)Reply
One more point is that the Jan 6, 1968 issue of Billboard, which showed the single Bubbling Under at #114, was published Dec. 30, 1967. Like most newsstand periodicals, the date on the issue is when it would be OK for retailers to take unsold copies off the stands, as that's when the next issue would be published. PatConolly (talk) 02:41, 12 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

Heavy Metal not Hard Rock

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The article states that the song has elements of Hard Rock when they are better categorized as Heavy Metal according to the respective articles on Wiki. According to these articles during the era in question the terms were used interchangeably with the article on Hard Rock noting that one of the differentiating points between Heavy Metal and Hard Rock is the use of repeated riffs as opposed to riffs that tend to outline chord progressions in their hooks. The song in question falls into the former catagory and based on this it is be more appropriate to describe the common aspects of the two genres in question as Heavy Metal. Kevinskogg (talk) 20:16, 2 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

Looks like you have a reliable source for it now. I would prefer, however, to remove the cite from the lede and add it with Clapton's quote in the body of the article. - SummerPhDv2.0 20:40, 2 November 2018 (UTC)Reply
OK, do you have a good idea where it would fit in the artocle?Kevinskogg (talk) 17:44, 4 November 2018 (UTC)Reply
See WP:STICKTOSOURCE: the Clapton quote doesn't mention SSOYL, just one view of Cream in general. HM is WP:ORIGINALRESEARCH/WP:SYNTHESIS. —Ojorojo (talk) 17:05, 13 March 2019 (UTC)Reply
True. Good catch. - SummerPhDv2.0 18:27, 13 March 2019 (UTC)Reply