Talk:Supa Sirisingh

Deadlinks

The following two links are unreliable due to the fact that the sponsoring website could sell out of the item and pull the site. The other thing is there is a view limit to the pages and the actual information could become unavailable:

[1] link 1   [2] link 2

This one could also cause problems:

[3] link 3

You'll need to find more reliable sources or the page will get pulled ... and that would be a shame.  - Myk Streja (Talk to me) 20:57, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

I realized upon review that there was enough information for the first link to allow it to stand. If the url goes bad, the ISBN refers to a book in a library. The same goes for the second link. If, in the future, the url goes dead, it can be editted out and leave the ISBN as the primary source.  - Myk Streja (Talk to me) 21:37, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

I found a reliable source for link 3. It's rather lengthy, so I won't post it here. It's an archived website to a community college's library. The contents are a book review. You might look at it to fill in more content and get rid of the stub tag.  - Myk Streja (Talk to me) 22:04, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

Much editting done. I hope the author is pleased. It's no longer a stub. Note that WikiProject Biography banner lists this article as Start. We're on the way!  - Myk Streja (Talk to me) 03:35, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

Just a comment on "dead links" : I haven't seen or heard of the process that you describe happening for Google books here. Also, underlying the online link is a real physical book which can be accessed regardless of its online availability, although this is admittedly convenient. The third link that you mention has actually been archived so it should be available permanently. --Big_iron (talk) 23:12, 4 June 2017 (UTC)

Moved the page

There were too many references to her name being Supa Sirisingh, that I had to move the page. Finding her Facebook page was the final straw. The old article is now a redirect. I plan on finding it and making it a disambiguation page.  — Myk Streja _Talk to me 13:55, 4 June 2017 (UTC)

Edit Conflict

@Melcous: I know you meant well when you stopped by to edit this page, but there was a reason for the in-use tag that was on the top of the article. The edit conflict I had to deal with took a while to fix when I went to save my work. After looking at your userpage (impressive) I'm willing to admit you're a better editor than me, but you could have come back later like the banner asks. I think I might have lost some of the edits you did. I will complain about this one: hmmm, now that I look at it, maybe not. The problem with the {{cn}} is when I find the reference, can I put it at the end of the paragraph?. If I don't I'll have to have three references scattered around the paragraph.

While I have your attention , can I ask what I need to do to attract reviewers. I think the page is ready to upgrade from Start in the WikiProjects listed on this talk page.  — Myk Streja _Talk to me 13:22, 4 June 2017 (UTC)

Myk Streja Hi and thanks for your charitable response. The in-use tag actually wasn't showing for me when I edited the page, but did show up as soon as I saved my changes. I'm not sure why, but if I had seen it beforehand, I wouldn't have made the edit, so I am sorry about the edit conflict issue it caused for you. With the references, my reading of WP:CS is that references should be given for specific claims made about the person throughout a paragraph rather than just at the end. I have added a cn tag just now, for example, where you have "further research indicates..." but no reference as to what this further research is. Thanks for your work on the article, it has definitely improved! Cheers, Melcous (talk) 22:57, 4 June 2017 (UTC)

I lost track of the references. This is the only one I could find, and I've been told that Facebook can't be used as a reference: Waewvan Sriwong is a veternarian, or maybe a researcher. Definitely a woman. I changed the entry.  — Myk Streja ^talk to me 02:29, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

It's not just that Facebook is not an acceptable reference, what you are doing there is original research which is not allowed. Wikipedia is based on content that is reported by other reliable sources, editors can't do their own research and base content on their own conclusions drawn from that. Thanks for changing that. Also, I'm not sure what you mean by "Waewvan is briefly mentioned." Briefly mentioned by who? for what purpose? How is that relevant to this article? Cheers, Melcous (talk) 04:11, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

Who is Suweeriya?

Suweeriya Sirisingh seems to be Supa's daughter, or possibly granddaughter. She has accounts with Google+, YouTube, LinkedIn (career finder), Facebook... She also seems to go by the Botan penname. She has an account on Goodreads that states she is 40 years old. It's possible that Supa has used Suweeriya's name as a pseudonym. On this website, there is a photo of Supa, but the article says it's Suweeriya: Book Award

Any information available could be useful to disambiguate this issue.  — Myk Streja _Talk to me 13:53, 4 June 2017 (UTC)

Request for a Peer Review

@Big iron, Aboutmovies, Melcous, Giraffedata, Rubbish computer, and Titodutta:

It's time for this article to be submitted for a Peer Review. All of you have had a hand (or a finger) in producing this article and have contributed in some fashion big or small. Some I was not happy with, but no one else will never know. Believe it or not, I wasn't the one to start this project, but I did take it to heart.

Please respond here and let me know whether we submit/keep editting/don't give a and let it die.  — Myk Streja ^talk to me 21:25, 4 June 2017 (UTC)

• Peer review? Why? I am not sure. My suggestions would be expand the article with references. The infobox image is also not the best one. --Tito Dutta (talk) 21:29, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
• Yeah, I don't get the question (submit/keep editing/let die); there's nothing to submit. You're done if you choose to be and Wikipedia thanks you for your contribution. Bryan Henderson (giraffedata) (talk) 02:59, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

@Titodutta and Giraffedata: I'm attempting to get the grading on this article improved. See Wilipedia:Peer review for a better explanation than I can give here. Mr Dutta, I agree, but it is an image of the regional variety of the peony, and there is no free image of the author available. I could use a prettier image, do you think anyone would care?  — Myk Streja ^talk to me 15:03, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

Infobox flower

Paul012 Do you have a better reason than Flower image not really useful? The flower is a play on words for her pseudonym, Botan (Peony). But you knew that, right? If you can come up with an image that we can use here, I would be pleased. So would the others that visit this article. — Myk Streja ^(who?) 06:33, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

Yes. For biographical articles such as this, the image in the infobox is almost always expected to be an image of the person who is subject of the article. Now we unfortunately lack a free image of her, but such is the case for plenty of notable people. Putting an image of a flower in the infobox violates the principle of least astonishment, and is sure to confuse the reader, who will find themselves wondering whether this is an article about a person or a plant. If desired, it would be much better to place the image outside the infobox, as it can still nicely provide context to the discussion of her pen name in the Career section. --Paul_012 (talk) 15:30, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

That is a very reasonable suggestion. Thank you. — Myk Streja ^(who?) 21:31, 21 June 2017 (UTC)