Talk:Super-Sons

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NOTE from Commander Benson:

... There is one misattribution mentioned in one of those sites, and, in fact, is a common misconception regarding the Super-Sons.

That erroneous fact is crediting Denny O'Neil with the idea of determining the Super-Sons to be probability-based creations of Superman's super-ultivac computer, in order to reconcile them with the Earth-One DC universe.

True, O'Neil did use this notion as the basis for his story "The Final Secret of the Super-Sons", from World's Finest Comics # 263 (Jun.-Jul., 1980). However, the idea was first advanced by Gerry Conway--in his story "My Father . . . Superman", from Superman Family # 192 (Nov.-Dec., 1978). In a scene showing Superman in his Fortress on page 1, panel 4 reveals the Man of Steel's thoughts:

"Batman and I once used this computer probability simulator to project what might have happened if Krypton had never exploded. And later, if we'd married and had sons a few years ago . . . * That was an interesting experiment, though a little bizarre."

The same panel contains a footnote:

"* At last, the true story behind the "Super-Sons" series in World's Finest nos. 215, 216, 221, etc."

This was a rare--I say "rare" based on the number of times I've seen Conway disregard established facts regarding characters in the DC universe--instance where Conway cleverly employed an element from the Silver-Age Superman.

You see, neither Conway nor O'Neil pulled out of their hats the idea of a super-computer which displayed probable events based on scenarios fed to it. It had been long established that Superman possessed such a computer and it had been used recurringly during the Silver Age.

In the story "Superman's Other Life', from Superman # 132 (Oct., 1959), the Man of Steel is entertaining the Batman and Robin in his Fortress of Solitude, and he unveils for them his new "Super-Univac"--an advanced simulation computer which, once fed all of the pertinent data and background details, can determine the most probable outcome of a hypothetical question fed to it, then presents this outcome in a visual display. The plotline for "Superman's Other Life" was kicked off when Superman feeds the Super-Univac the question "WHAT IF KRYPTON HAD NEVER EXPLODED?".

The simulations presented by the Super-Univac figured prominently in several other DC stories in the early '60's--"The 'Superman' from Outer Space" (Action Comics # 265 [Jun., 1960]) and "The Super-Life of Lois Lane!" (Lois Lane # 47 [Feb., 1964]), among others.

Batman Junior

I think we have a disambiguation problem with Batman Junior Jon Vence maybe the spelling Batman Jr. should redirect to that page too.

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