Talk:Super Collider (album)/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Khazar2 (talk) 13:09, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

Will do the review. Looking through out the article's history, I've only edited the "Charts" section, which doesn't make me a significant contributor. Comments to follow soon.--Вик Ретлхед (talk) 01:37, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

Вик Ретлхед has asked me at my talk page to take this one over; I'd be glad to. Comments to follow in the next 1-5 days. Thanks in advance for your work on it. -- Khazar2 (talk) 13:09, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

Appreciate the help. I might stick around with some notes of mine.--Вик Ретлхед (talk) 15:25, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

Your input would be very welcome. -- Khazar2 (talk) 00:17, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Initial comments

On first pass, this looks good, though I see some issues that will need to be addressed. I've made some tweaks to the prose as I went to trim a bit of excess verbiage; feel free to revert any with which you disagree. Issues I couldn't immediately resolve myself are listed below. Thanks again for your work to bring this one to this point! -- Khazar2 (talk) 19:11, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

• "standard- and limited- vinyl editions" -- the punctuation here throws me a bit. Are the editions normally written as "standard-vinyl" and "limited-vinyl"? If so, the second hyphen shouldn't have a space after it. If not, the hyphens should be omitted.

It was supposed to be an abbreviation for "standard edition and limited edition", but i was unsure myself, so I'll remove the hyphens.--L1A1 FAL (talk) 19:36, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

• The lead doesn't appear to correlate very well with the body of the article yet; remember that it generally shouldn't present any new information (such as the editions the CD appeared in) that isn't in the body. Rather, it should be a summary touching on each of the article's main sections. (see WP:LEAD)

Will look into placing that into the main text body instead.--L1A1 FAL (talk) 19:36, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Great, thanks. Looks like the statement about the lineup change is also only in the lead (and probably needs a source). -- Khazar2 (talk) 20:13, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

I just removed it. It isn't that important in the grand scheme of things, and I don't really want to track down a source just so I can cite that. It can clearly be seen comparing personnel sections on this page and the one on Thirteen. I merged the bit about Draiman into the end of the first paragraph then.--L1A1 FAL (talk) 20:37, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

• "Excluding bonus tracks, it is the first cover song to appear on a Megadeth album since "Anarchy in the UK", a Sex Pistols cover, was included on So Far, So Good... So What! in 1988." -- needs citation. I suppose you could source this directly to album liner notes, but if it's not mentioned in any secondary source, I don't know that it's important enough to mention in our article, either.

Consider it gone.--L1A1 FAL (talk) 19:36, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

• It appears the license of File:CMS_Silicon_Tracker_Arty_HiRes.jpg is under review. It's probably best to just cut this image from the article for now to avoid complications; it's not particularly important anyway, since the slightly modified image already appears on the album's cover.

Yeah, I originally just added it to add a little visual "flair" to the article, but if there's a license issue, I'll just cut it out then.--L1A1 FAL (talk) 19:36, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Вик Ретлхед, any notes to add? -- Khazar2 (talk) 19:11, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Hi. I went through the "Critical reception" and must say, its prose is beyond the GA criteria. I also found this link where Mustaine discusses some songs, the artwork etc; if L1A1 thinks it is worthy to add it, he may incorporate it somehow.--Вик Ретлхед (talk) 19:44, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the link. I added some stuff about the title track and "Cold Sweat" to the songs section.--L1A1 FAL (talk) 20:25, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Khazar2, I have done most of the changes above, along with reworking the lead. I did it a little closer to how i did the one for Thirteen (Megadeth album), sans Grammy stuff, because that hasn't happened yet for this album. The lead can be further tweaked to include that if or when it does happen. Thanks again for taking the time to review this!--L1A1 FAL (talk) 20:25, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Checklist

Rate	Attribute	Review Comment
1. Well-written:
	1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct.	Spotchecks show no evidence of copyright issues.
	1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.
2. Verifiable with no original research:
	2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline.
	2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose).
	2c. it contains no original research.
3. Broad in its coverage:
	3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic.
	3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).
	4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.
	5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
	6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content.
	6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.
	7. Overall assessment.	Pass as GA