Talk:Super Mario Bros. Z

Article Illegitimacy Due to Edits By Alen Alic

Multiple people have started catching wind of this issue, and I was the person who originally removed the edits Alen made giving him dishonorable credit. Thank you Casandra and Cyberlink420 for your work and confrontation of the situation already.

Alen Alic / Acekard/ 7aces, is whom I believe is Crazyeditorguy22, or at the very least a friend of his.

I believe he made the new alias after my team and I have been calling him out for editing the Wikipedia article and making large chunks of it to give himself unfair and dishonest credit, under his "acekard" name.

I even spoke with Jason Kaufman my self, and he believes an Producer and Editor claim is completely unreasonable. Because all he did was rip Mark's footage without permission. Alen only got the footage because he manipulated Jason. Alen then went and used said footage and put together a very lazy "remaster" with next to no effort. He only THEN told Mark about it and tried to get the video UPLOADED TO ALEN'S youtube channel. After a long back and forth Mark eventually agreed to just upload the video to HIS channel, due to it being HIS CONTENT.

Mark and Alen are not even good friends and haven't been for a long time. I don't know enough about wikipedia to get the proper protocols in place to stop him, but if do you know I ask you to try. Alen does not deserve to get away with this.

Crazyeditorguy22 is probably going to delete this, and pass it off as "harassment", so I hope enough people see this before he does.

-MutaharAnderson — Preceding unsigned comment added by MutaharAnderson (talk • contribs) 10:16, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

Hello Muhatar. I don't even know Alen, just of his association with Mark. Alen had nothing to do with anything added on this page, besides a couple of layout fixes which he helped the editors out with. Cassandra and I are responsible for most of what's written here. All of your claims are without proof and just seems hateful. I know of you through how you raided and tried to destroy the SMBZ Wikipedia fandom page, through the Discord page. So don't act innocent. You just are spiteful towards anyone and anything to do with SMBZ. As long as the 4K remaster stays up, which proves in the credits that Jason and Alen had worked on it, their names will stay in the infobox and later in the article, as it is information relevant to the series. If anyone has any rebuttals or information proving otherwise, I would love to hear it. Crazyeditorguy22 (talk) 12:31, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

That's why they're credited in the brief mention in the development section; they don't need to be in the infobox. You've been reverted by three different editors at this point; just stop. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 17:37, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

Ok, this Acekard came in and said to just leave the notes there. That is fine with me. Thank you for clearing up this guys. Crazyeditorguy22 (talk) 12:41, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

He said "if you must", not that the notes have to be there. The contributions are not significant and don't need to be in the infobox. The credit in the development section is enough. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 17:43, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

Yeah, if the note has to be added, then by the production company would be the best, as if there could be any confusion among the fanbase, then it would be good to have. But overall, it isn't necessary. But, of course, this can be discussed. Sorry if I caused any trouble. Acekard (talk) 12:49, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

27 October 2020 (UTC)

Firstly, I am NOT the wiki raider, and you have no proof on your side to make a claim like that. I have all of the evidence on mine. You are committing libel. A crime you are labeling me for. I have nothing against SMBZ as a whole, only Alen, who has been causing problems like this for ages. The fact you are still trying to remove this talk page represents your motives here. You are also making stuff up. The first time the Kaufman and Alen credits were edited AT ALL in the revision history was a revision made by Acekard. If you are not Alen, you a clearly a biased source, who wants to defame me because I've been disrupting Alen's plans. And funny enough ALEN is the one who came up with the idea of defaming me as the raider. So you are clearly a friend of his. And I have documented proof of Alen saying this stuff. Also Crazy I love how you said this needs to be discussed here first BUT WHEN I ORIGINALLY put a talk post up for the issue, you removed it for "harassment" stop lying through your teeth. MutaharAnderson (talk) 12:49, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

This has nothing to do with Alen. Stop accusing another party of anything. If you want to blame anyone for anything on this page, Cassandra and I wrote most of it. And I heard on the Discord page that some guy named Muhatar was doing it. Oh and look at that, your name is Muhatar. Now you are here again, disrupting the wiki page. Don't think that's a coincidence buddy. And I'll say it again, I don't know Alen at all, just of him. Crazyeditorguy22 (talk) 20:54, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

There you go again, please show me some proof that i'm wrong, because I have a lot of proof myself, find me in the server and I'll hand it to you myself. I'm even in talks with the people who admin the Discord server and the Fandom Wiki. So I know more then you could even imagine. But I highly doubt you would take me up on that offer because of your "precious" identity. Although I am starting get a good idea who you are, just with the timing of everything. Alen is manipulating you just like he has everyone else. Funny enough how you haven't exactly disputed anything I said. You can't even spell my name right. But alas all the other editors are clearly done with you and how many guidelines YOU have broken. If one of them do eventually decide to push the article to AFD it still works for me. I could continue to have this long back and forth over this Wikipedia talk page, but I have more important things to do. Sorry. MutaharAnderson (talk) 12:49, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

You're both acting like immature children. Wikipedia isn't the place for your personal vendettas or off-site feuds. Either knock it off or I will be seeking topic bans for both of you, if not full blocks. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 14:08, 28 October 2020 (UTC) Sorry, Cyberlink. Just this Muhatar guy is bad news and he just has a personal vendetta against Mark and Alen since they ignored him because he's a lowlife. Again, my apologies, I won't be commenting anymore. Thank you. Crazyeditorguy22 (talk) 21:02, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

Poor sourcing

This article is very poorly sourced - that can partly be the cause of edit wars, since without strong, in depth sources to follow it can be very difficult to know exactly what should be included. It also makes such wrangling rather pointless because the article could be deleted if anyone were to take it to AFD, as has already happened once before. Can more reliable sources be located? What is in the article now appears to be a hodgepodge of unreliable blogs. - MrOllie (talk) 17:54, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

Sadly, I'm not sure many if any exist. While I do know from personal experience that the show is very popular, it simply hasn't received much coverage in stronger sources. If it goes to AFD, I doubt it'll survive. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 18:09, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

The best option, in my opinion, is just to get this page deleted at this point, I really believe this is a lost cause for credibility. -- MutaharAnderson (talk) 18:09, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

I need your help.

I'm working on the Spanish version of this article https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Mario_Bros._Z . How do I upload the Super Mario Bros. Z logo to Wikipedia commons? I tried to do it and it was deleted by someone for copyright. Shlyst (talk) 00:26, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

Remove it and Upload the SMBZ logo to Wikipedia commos

The logo is unusable in the Spanish article https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMBZ Shlyst (talk) 16:09, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

Commons does not accept images under copyright. - MrOllie (talk) 16:18, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

Must be undeleted

How are they gonna have Super_Hornio_Brothers and not this? If it's "poorly sourced" just put up the red banner on it and we will fix it right up.--Shlyst (talk) 12:15, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

It had a sourcing banner for six months. There is no reason to think that sufficient sources exist to keep the article. But if you think there are, you can write a new draft and use WP:AFC. - MrOllie (talk) 12:31, 10 May 2021 (UTC)