Talk:Super Robot Wars UX

Hatsune Miku origin

User:Blackgaia02 has been adding to the article that the Hatsune Mika robot first appeared in Hatsune Miku: Project DIVA Extend, but he has not added a reliable source to verify this and claims, "It doesn't make sense. And Vocaloids DON'T BELONG in a SRW game!" [1]. Additionally, he has removed my in-text attribution for the quote "simple but neat design" claiming, "Do not say the website name in this article. It's already in the reference section." ([2]) My understanding of WP:INTEXT (which I notified the user of in [3]), is that we should we should use in-text attribution "in addition to an inline citation after the sentence" and it "should be used with direct speech (a source's words between quotation marks); indirect speech (a source's words, modified [see the article], without quotation marks); and close paraphrasing." I believe the origins of the miku robot should be removed because it constitutes original research, and that the website should be attributed in the article. --Odie5533 (talk) 21:38, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

• OH really? Because SEGA themselves already revealed that in one of their blogs and also WP:INTEXT is optional. I suggest not to remove the Fei-Yen HD origin because it's already stated in the official Virtual-On blog. Hatsune Miku: Project DIVA Extend is a source so deal with it.--Blackgaia02 (Talk if you're Worthy) (talk) 02:36, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

• Even if WP:INTEXT were optional, in this case we clearly should be attributing a direct quote of opinion to the source because otherwise it will confuse readers as to why we have quoted some text in the article but not other text. Why do you believe we should not follow the well-established WP:CITE guideline in this case? Regarding the statement from SEGA, can you please provide a reference to show that SEGA has said the miku/fei yen's first appearance is in Hatsune Miku: Project DIVA Extend? Claims such as these must be substantiated. --Odie5533 (talk) 03:01, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

• That ref you've been looking for is in THIS BLOG ok? Can't you understand Japanese or what's written there? And also that is also confirmed here in a Dengeki article. Story Short: The Fei-Yen HD is an unlockable outfit in the game, seen in this PV: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1EHQpm7_Rg So please leave me alone ok! I got bigger problems to handle!--Blackgaia02 (Talk if you're Worthy) (talk) 06:12, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

• I can not understand a word of Japanese. I integrated the source. In the future, when someone challenges material you add and you want to add it back, please cite a reliable source by following the tutorial at WP:REF. Additionally, Wikipedia is a collaborative encyclopedia. Every so often you will run in to people with different opinions, and even in these instances we should strive to reach a consensus. --Odie5533 (talk) 10:26, 21 December 2012 (UTC)