Talk:Super VGA

This page is about Super VGA, the appended info on WSVGA is out of scope and a distraction.

But removing it, creates more problems without an article for WSVGA to go to. Astronaut (talk) 19:06, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

That makes no sense.  It's wikipedia, make a new entry.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.68.51.144 (talk) 03:42, 11 July 2009 (UTC) 

Is this ^ why the article has a table that includes WXGA and WUXGA (etc), but neither WSVGA, plain XGA, (W)VGA, or plain SVGA? Totally wrongheaded approach. 80.189.129.216 (talk) 14:08, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

Most of this article isn't relevant

"Super VGA" isn't really defined by anyone and the article rambles about colour depth with no real destination. The references to the VBA standard really seem quite inappropriate as they never defined Super VGA (and the standard apparently explicitly states this). All they defined was a standard method for programming modes beyond the VGA specification. In common usage, Super VGA is usually only used to indicate a resolution of 800x600... the discussion of monitor colour depth seems completely out of place here as a result as does the discussion of the evolution of the VBE standards.

I would be willing to delete large swaths of this (including the chart as it does not include SVGA), and bring some cohesiveness to the article as a discussion of how it's not specified by generally used to indicate 800x600 unless someone has better sources somewhere. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Real Deuce (talk • contribs) 08:21, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Seven years, and we still have an SVGA article that's rounded off with a table of monitor resolutions that are only really relevant to the 21st century, not the late 1980s. I haven't the time to fix it right now, but I'll be back to do it sometime later today. Or maybe I'll just delete the whole thing. Very few early SVGA cards could provide any of the resolutions on that list, and indeed they wouldn't have been thought particularly useful as they're all widescreen, and the world of the late 80s and most of the 1990s was one where 4:3 was king. My own first PC, of 1994 vintage, which had a 2mb SXGA/VESA/SVGA/whatever you want to call it video card, could provide 640x480, 800x600, 1024x768 and 1280x1024... and that was it. Even as late as the turn of the 2010s some integrated graphics chips didn't have very good widescreen support, you might get 848x480 or 1280x720 if you were lucky and that was about it... 80.189.129.216 (talk) 14:06, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

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Is it really Super video graphics array?

Is it really Super video graphics array? As the article mentions, it is almost always Super VGA. Given that, shouldn't the article be named Super VGA? Gah4 (talk) 17:25, 11 September 2017 (UTC)

VGA = Video Graphics Array. Thus, Super VGA = Super Video Graphics Array. Any further questions? 80.189.129.216 (talk) 14:02, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

It sounds good that way, but that isn't the way Wikipedia, or the world, works. It might be, though, that a better name would be beyond VGA or beyond video graphics array. While some resolutions have names, by now they are just numbers, the important part being that the waveforms are similar to VGA, with (usually) higher sync frequencies. Gah4 (talk) 00:03, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

Requested move 1 March 2019

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The result of the move request was: Moved to Super VGA per consensus. (closed by non-admin page mover) SITH (talk) 13:14, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

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Super video graphics array → Super Video Graphics Array – Fix capitalization. –User456541 23:31, 1 March 2019 (UTC) --Relisting. SITH (talk) 13:10, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

• Oppose – No rationale for why "a broad term that covers a wide range of computer display standards" should be treated as a proper name. But Super VGA might be OK. Dicklyon (talk) 03:31, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose But I would support a move to Super VGA or SVGA, as per Super Video Graphics Array vs Super VGA vs SVGA on Google trends. Danielklein (talk) 13:28, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
• Move to Super VGA - In reviewing books that cover computer graphics, on first mention, VGA is almost always expanded to Video Graphics Array, but Super VGA is almost never expanded to "Super Video Graphics Array". Or rather, on first mention its most often just simply called "Super VGA" and then shortened to SVGA for subsequent use. Here is a Google Ngram comparison. -- Netoholic @ 16:13, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

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Please move this article

Please move this article (from Super VGA to Super Video Graphics Array); then help with RMCD bot! This article is acknowledged for move in the future. — Preceding comment signature by an anonymous user: 2403:6200:8937:FC96:3D66:909B:83E6:3DF6 (talk) 03:47, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

VBE facts

Before I started editing this article, the narrative was that VESA defined the term "Super VGA," but I found that wasn't true. The original VBE 1.0 spec from 1989 clearly states that it was created as a response to the proliferation of incompatible Super VGA cards, and I can find the term used in PC Mag, Aug 1988, on page 174. Interestingly, it was the actual brand name of a Genoa graphics card (SuperVGA HiRes) and I strongly suspect that this is the actual origin - that Genoa begat the whole thing. But we can't prove that to Wikipedia's standards.

Not even the resolution part is accurate. 800x600 was in the VBE spec, but so was 1024x768, and there is no special treatment of 800x600 that I can see except that it has a 7-bit VGA-BIOS-compatible mode number instead of a 15-bit VESA mode number, which seems immaterial. The Genoa SuperVGA HiRes also supported 1024x768x16 before the VBE even existed.

I am trimming this article to the bare verifiable facts (which aren't much) and reducing the reference to 800x600 to "SVGA is commonly understood to mean 800x600." I'm pretty sure any other common wisdom on this topic is just half remembered smoke and mirrors.Gravislizard (talk) 01:46, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

SVGA was an add-on board for IBM VGA

Original IBM SVGA card had a VGA passthrough and added 1024x768 for IBM 8514 monitor. It used a Texas Instruments 34020 co-processor that executed screen drawing instructions.Some early SVGA cards like S3 and ATI used those instructions leading to the VESA Standard. Some cards ("Number 9") of even 1995 had separate VGA and SVGA on the same board.

https://www.ti.com/lit/gpn/sm34020a-s 75.253.119.222 (talk) 05:41, 27 June 2024 (UTC)