Talk:Supporters of FC Barcelona/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: NapHit (talk) 21:35, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

• I would start off the lead with a bit about the football club, so you can establish for the reader who the club is, then after that delve into the details about the supporters
  • had a go at it
• Some images need alt text and others (the ronaldinho one being the prime example) need improving, remember your describing the picture for those who cannot see it, look here for some tips

This needs still needs to be done NapHit (talk) 13:28, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

• You need to make the political situation clearer in the lead, to the casual reader, they could read it as being Barca that is under authoritarian rule
  • is it better now?
• Second para is too short try and flesh it out
• "In the mid 1940s the club invented the notion of penyes, a mix between a fan club and a support club" - to me fan club and support club are the same thing, I think you need to distinguish why they are different if indeed they are at all
  • It's in the meaning "friends of FC Barcelona", I've added financial so it reads "financial support group".
• You need to say in English what Més que un club means as I'm sure many readers will not know
  • Gotcha.
• Ok now I'm confused we have penyes and socios, I thought the penyes were the socios before I got to the para about the introduction of the socios, so you really need to clarify the difference between these two groups
• "In Spain, about 25% of the population are said to be Barça sympathisers" - sympathisers is the wrong word, the title says supporters so why not use that?
  • yeah that's completely true. Done.
• I'm not sure that Goal.com is a reliable source likewise sport nation I would try to find more reputable sources than these
  • There is no English equivalent for Goal.com. What do you mean by sport nation? New Nation or Sport Review? Sandman888 (talk) 10:48, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

I would like to see other sources than goal.com used as it is not the most reliable, think you might have misunderstood what I meant, if you cannot find a better source than so be it, but it would be ideal. Forget the stuff about the other two sources they look reliable enough for GA. Also ref 25 needs an accessdate, and the journal reference needs to have its volume and issue listed NapHit (talk) 15:35, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Information duly noted. Sandman888 (talk) 07:16, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

• You need to format the refs from the books using cite book, last and the page for the inline citations. I have formatted the first ref in the history section as an example
  • I believe that is entirely optional per WP:CITESHORT.

So it is forget this then NapHit (talk) 15:35, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

• Reach section is a mess, I would just merge it all into one paragraph
  • okay, done
• There has to be some more information about the supporters because at the moment the article is very short, how about rivalries with other clubs, I think you definitely need to expand the reach section
  • They have strong rivalry with Real Madrid, I could include something from the Boixos Nois article if appropiate.

I'm going to put the article on hold, I'll do a light copyedit but you need to address the issues I have arose, the prose is poor in places and more information would be great, for a club's of its size there must be more information on the club's supporters. I look forward to your response. NapHit (talk) 21:35, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

• • Thanks for taking the time to doing this GA. Sandman888 (talk) 09:14, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
    • Is there more you would like changed? Sandman888 (talk) 19:08, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

All done now, I'll pass the article NapHit (talk) 11:46, 9 September 2010 (UTC)