Talk:Survivor Series (2016)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 October 2016

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{{Infobox Wrestling event |name = Survivor Series (2016) |image = |caption = |tagline = |theme = |promotion = [[WWE]] |brand = [[WWE Raw|Raw]]<br>[[WWE SmackDown|SmackDown]] |sponsor = [[Mattel|Mattel's]] ''WWE Then Now Forever Elite Series'' </br> [[Hulu]] |date = November 20, 2016 |attendance = |venue = [[Air Canada Centre]] |city = [[Toronto]], [[Ontario]], [[Canada]] |wwenlast = [[NXT TakeOver: Toronto]] |wwennext = [[WWE TLC: Tables, Ladders & Chairs|TLC: Tables, Ladders & Chairs (2016)]] |event = [[Survivor Series]] |lastevent2 = [[Survivor Series (2015)]] |nextevent2 = }}

189.143.253.99 (talk) 17:35, 16 October 2016 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. JTP ^{(talk • contribs)} 23:17, 17 October 2016 (UTC)

Alicia Fox and Sasha Banks on the team?

Hello! I couldn't help but wonder if it was officially revealed that Alicia Fox and Sasha Banks were gonna compete on the team. On the WWE website it states how there are currently two slots open for Team Raw, so how do we automatically know that its gonna be Sasha Banks and Alicia Fox? Thank you! NikkiSky (talk) 00:45, 8 November 2016 (UTC)

Sasha Bayley Alicia Charlotte Nia all on team raw Harlamshake48 (talk) 13:00, 8 November 2016 (UTC)

Recent additions from "unaired" SmackDown (11/8/2016)

What is the need to rush on adding these? Can we really not wait until the actual show airs (which is in less than 3 hours)? It's a disservice to people who watch the show who may happen to read this article beforehand to get themselves caught up or something of that sort. --JDC808 ♫ 22:38, 8 November 2016 (UTC)

Results were added when every SmackDown was pretaped before July, so what's the difference? JTP ^{(talk • contribs)} 23:33, 8 November 2016 (UTC)

Were they, because I did not notice that. Still, if the show hasn't aired, we shouldn't go around and pre-spoil our readers. Let them at least have the chance to watch it. It's unfair to them if they don't know that results are already known and Wikipedia is already posting them. It's a different story when it's already aired; they had the chance to see it then. --JDC808 ♫ 00:00, 9 November 2016 (UTC)

I don't know if they were added before the actual broadcast but, strictly speaking, such results should not be added at all UNLESS they provide background to the PPV in question. The Background section is not a play-by-play of weeekly events. The note at the beginning says that but all too many editors disregard it. 23:43, 9 November 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 November 2016

SHANE O MAC IS THE FINAL MEMEBER OF TEAM SDL 198.251.214.67 (talk) 23:46, 8 November 2016 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. — JJMC89 (T·C) 01:00, 9 November 2016 (UTC)

My edit is not vandalism

Paul Heyman and Maryse are not on the source provided and are not confirmed for the event. Smackdowns team is called Team Smackdown LIVE not team Smackdown and the stipulation has the word traditional in it, same with the word men's in the men's elimination match. Miz v Zayn should above cruiserweights match. Source: http://www.wwe.com/shows/survivorseries/2016 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Judester30 (talk • contribs) 08:14, 17 November 2016 (UTC)

Most sources tend to not include the manager before the event (as I've seen) despite the manager being there at the event. I'm not opposed to including Live, because that is how their team is promoted, but there are some who are opposed to it; I'll let them weigh in. "Traditional" isn't necessary because it is in no way a stipulation. "Men's" and "Women's" I've tried adding but it gets removed because "it's not a stipulation", though in a sense, it kind of is. At the very least, it's descriptive of what the match is. The order of the table right now isn't really important because it's not final,; unless WWE has released the order, we don't know it. For the most part, the order right now is based on the order that each match was finalized. Come Sunday, the order will be changed to reflect the actual order. --JDC808 ♫ 22:38, 17 November 2016 (UTC)

I agree, let's just wait until Sunday --Judester30

Managers can neither be included or not. But given that Wikipedia articles thus far have included them, they must be included here as well.

The teams are named after the brands and the brand is called "Smackdown". Furterhmore, JDC, may I remind you that we have an agreement to include "Live" only during the first mention (in the background intro line). In any case, there's absolutely no reason to capitalise LIVE.

That was for the television show name, which I've kept to that agreement on. This here was in reference to the team name, as they almost always called it Team SmackDown Live, but it's whatever. --JDC808 ♫ 08:16, 23 November 2016 (UTC)

Okay, can we then agree that we use the short form in the elimination tables. I admit that they stupidly said "Team Smackdown Live" all the time recently. "Live" of course not in capital. Str1977 ^(talk) 13:39, 23 November 2016 (UTC)

Men and Women are not a stipulation at all - they merely indicate the gender of the participants. We write "singles match" when two male wrestlers compete, not "Singles Men's Match". When two female wrestlers fight each other, we do not write "Singles Women's Match" either.

I absolutely agree on the order of matches. Moving them around before the event is pointless and potentially disruptive (as it makes changes much less transparent) - eventually the order will be determined by the event.

Str1977 ^(talk) 16:54, 20 November 2016 (UTC)

Your random assumption that the brand is called "SmackDown" is inaccurate, and unfounded in the corresponding sources reflected in the article. The show has been "SmackDown Live" for four months now, and even if they chose to eventually change it back to just "SmackDown" it wouldn't change the fact that at the airtime of Survivor Series the brand was "SmackDown Live", the teams were referred to this way in the entire build up to the PPV on TV, and were promoted/advertised the same way across all media platforms. Your edits have no basis, you provide no citations/sources for said edits and expect everyone else on WP to just "trust" you and let you do whatever you please. You can continue to make these edits as much as you please, but this is fair warning that your vandalism WILL be reported. Cheetoburrito (talk) 03:56, 23 November 2016 (UTC)

The show is called "SmackDown Live" but there's an agreement to use the full name once (during the line about storylines playing out on TV shows) and then use the shorter former. We don't use wrestlers' full names all the tame either. BTW, you are operating a serious double standard since you have no compunction of merely saying "Raw" when the show is called "Monday Night Raw" (and has been called that for most of its 23 years). What the brands are called is a different matter entirely. At least in common parlance, they're called the Raw brand and the SmackDown brand.

There's nothing "fair" about your "warning" as you are calling good faith edits vandalism. Str1977 ^(talk) 08:14, 23 November 2016 (UTC)

TBK vs Kalisto

Brian Kendrick won via WWE.com it is sourced and everything already — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.30.210.15 (talk) 03:26, 23 November 2016 (UTC)

Length Time

I don’t understand why it says that the event was four hours, according to my sources, it claims the event was 3 hours and 26 minutes, so I’m not asking for someone to change it, but can someone please verify that the ENTIRE event alone (excluding the kickoff show) was 4 hours? Thx. 2603:8081:2104:3C27:ECF8:92DC:28B6:83D8 (talk) 16:12, 23 December 2022 (UTC)