Talk:Susan Wojcicki/Archive 1

Archive 1

Brother-in-law?

How is the identity of her brother-in-law not relevant here? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.77.165.109 (talk) 04:31, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 August 2017

Susan Diane Wojcicki (/woʊˈdʒɪtski/ woh-JIT-skee; Polish: Wójcicka pronounced [vujˈt͡ʃit͡ska]; born July 5, 1968) is an American technology executive. She is the current CEO of YouTube [2][3], and is best known for her censorship of right wing videos. 216.64.3.100 (talk) 20:21, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. - FlightTime (open channel) 20:26, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 August 2017

There is something terribly wrong with the opening statement. The current opening reads,

Susan Diane Wojcicki (/woʊˈdʒɪtski/ woh-JIT-skee; Polish: Wójcicka pronounced [vujˈt͡ʃit͡ska]; born July 5, 1968) is an American technology executive. She is the current CEO of Youtube, a video sharing website that was a beacon of Democracy, that she changed into an icon of Orwellian cenorship known for its rampant censorship of anything even right of Lenin and Trotsky.[2][3]

Read that twice. Here is an older revision of the article that this statement should be changed back to:

Susan Diane Wojcicki (/woʊˈdʒɪtski/ woh-JIT-skee; Polish: Wójcicka pronounced [vujˈt͡ʃit͡ska]; born July 5, 1968) is an American technology executive. She is the current CEO of YouTube.[2][3] Brickertown (talk) 02:00, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

Already done Thanks — IVORK _Discuss 02:46, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

Additions and one edit to Susan Wojcicki's role as CEO

I tried as factually and neutrally as I could to highlight some of the product releases and milestones the company has reached during Susan Wojcicki's tenure as CEO. As the article stood, the only things mentioned about Susan's four years at YouTube as CEO was the notable lists she'd made, a change in content enforcement policies and the fact she started a YouTube channel, which seemed to not accurately cover her tenure. I did my best to source this information from other accepted wiki-entries and approved sources. I also added mention of several of the causes she has spoken out about in public op-eds in both online and print publications.

I edited what I felt to be an overly-detailed description of the reaction to her first YouTube video. While I'm not sure what was written was factually biased, it's inclusion seemed to suggest a noteworthiness to the reaction of that first video, while only providing one source (a video made by a YouTuber). It didn't seem to meet the high bar for biography of a living person.

2601:645:8101:395D:3043:FACE:C558:B994 (talk) 21:43, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

YouTube down

If you're here because you are unhappy with YouTube, let me assure you that vandalizing this encyclopedia will do nothing to fix the problem. Please follow whatever down time reportage they have there. My advice would be to go to Twitter and other social media for information and to vent. Thank you.-- Dlohcierekim (talk) 18:34, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

Susan's grandmother

Can we add this to her bio? Here's more info about it: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/15228886.2011.623117

"Her grandmother, Janina Wójcicka Hoskins, was a Polish-American librarian at the Library of Congress who was responsible for building the largest collection of Polish material in the United States." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2620:0:1006:18:4C41:ACAB:B3AA:EDB0 (talk) 23:18, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

No one pronounces "Wojcicki" as "Vuychitski" (/vuːjˈtʃɪski/ vooy-CHIS-kee)

Everyone, as in many native English speakers pronounce it more as "Wojchiski" [wɔdʒ'tʃɪski]. Even the Wiki article in Arabic transliterates it as وجسيكي (w-dj-s-i-k-i). Why act like the majority of English speakers who'd try pronouncing it literally according to English spelling are irrelevant or non-existent? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wiki nol ege (talk • contribs) 20:13, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

This is Polish surname and is pronounced as vɔjtɕitski. The closest is voy-tsyeets-kee. Also, ftw is going on with this "wuu" at the beginning? How the hfil "oj" became "uu" istead of "oy/oi" or even this retarded english pronounciation "odzh" (wodzh-chee-tskee)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 March 2019

REQUEST A NEW SENTENCE TO BE ADDED AFTER THIS EXISTING SENTENCE: Her grandfather, Franciszek Wójcicki, was a People's Party and Polish People's Party politician who had been elected MP during the Polish legislative election, 1947.

REQUESTED NEW SENTENCE: Her grandmother, Janina Wójcicka Hoskins, was a Polish-American librarian at the Library of Congress who was responsible for building the largest collection of Polish material in the United States.

SOURCE: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janina_W%C3%B3jcicka_Hoskins

Jessicakwang (talk) 20:07, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Begoon 11:07, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 June 2019

70.40.67.253 (talk) 22:32, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

Jewish American

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. NiciVampireHeart 14:55, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

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Controversy

I don't want to start a fire, but considering the amount of controversy she's received for blatant censorship and how much people dislike her on the platform someone should at the very least add a controversy section, she's seen her lot of controversies anyways. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Omir Laa (talk • contribs) 06:11, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

Semi protected edit request on March 25, 2021

I propose adding the following sentence as the third or fourth sentence in the "Early Life and Education" section:

At the age of four, she participated in the famous Stanford marshmallow experiment on delayed gratification led by Walter Mischel. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Finchkeith (talk • contribs) 07:38, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 31 March 2021

In 2021, Susan was named by Technology Magazine as the most impactful female working in technology worldwide.

Citation: https://www.technologymagazine.com/magazine/httpsissuucomgigabitmagazinedocstechnology-top100-women-suppliment-2021frsngjkztmyndg5mdc TechnologyMagazine (talk) 22:38, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: Promotional. No reliable third party source has reported on this. Terasail^[✉] 22:51, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

Evaluating possible sources

Looking at some sources about that Susan and checking out reliability at WP:RSPS, so that more content of her can be expanded:

• The Guardian - YouTube’s Susan Wojcicki: 'Where's the line of free speech – are you removing voices that should be heard?'
  • Hmm... Looks like a blog. The Guardian is a reliable source if it isn't about blogs, but the blog ones seem too "opinion" according to WP:RSPS.
• The Washington Post - The Technology 202: Where is YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki?
  • Washington Post is reliable source, I think, at least this one.
• NY Times - The Most Measured Person in Tech Is Running the Most Chaotic Place on the Internet
  • New York Times is a reliable source, I think, so that should do good.
• Wired - Why Isn't Susan Wojcicki Getting Grilled By Congress?
  • Wired is reliable source, I think, so also good.
• The Verge - YouTube has paid more than $30 billion to creators, artists, and others over the last three years
  • The Verge reliable. Yay.
• Rolling Stone - YouTube Is Poised to Overtake Spotify as Music’s Biggest Bankroller
  • Rolling Stone appears to be reliable, but might need to look at those other aspects.

Just grabbing whatever is in my New Zealand Google Search, just so we can all get a starting point to expand the article and expand more of the article. Qwertyxp2000 (talk | contribs) 06:55, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

Also this too: NBC News - Transcript: YouTube's Susan Wojcicki. NBC reliable source.

Still need more sources to get started with expanding Susan Wojcicki article. Qwertyxp2000 (talk

| contribs) 06:58, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

Criticism and controversies

Critics described Susan Wojcicki as a subject to the controversies regarding censorship, demonetization, policy changes, shadow banning, support for COPPA, channel removal, corporate and traditional media favoritism. Criticism and controversies should be added as a section on this Wikipedia page. Gwapo461 (talk) 05:25, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

I agree. 68.224.0.78 (talk) 16:29, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

This possession apostrophe is missing...

Awards category: `Forbes` to `Forbes'` TJC games (talk) 14:35, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

 Done ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:53, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

She is famous for censoring non feminist sources like Dr Jordan Peterson, calling him a Nazi is libel

She is not famous for censoring Nazis, everyone censors them - but for censoring leftist classical liberals like James Damien who cited Dr Haidt's research from Harvard or Dr Jordan Peterson and anyone who isn't a communist feminist left of Lenin and Trostky, famous for her Left-Of-Lenin-And-USSR far left censorship regime that irked liberals. Even Go Daddy took Stormfront down, everyone goes against Nazis, it's nothing to be famous for that everyone does. She's famous for going too far and censoring for leftists for not being more communist than the USSR. She and Zuckberberg, and she gets triggered. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.181.226.131 (talk) 04:23, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

• Naming Trotsky in an argument against censorship is intellectually dishonest. Trotsky was strong on freedom of speech, and implying otherwise is itself libelous. Here's an article written by him that explains exactly why the efforts by today's censorious mob are at best misguided, and at worst treacherous: https://www.marxists.org/archive/trotsky/1938/08/press.htm RadicallyNeutral (talk) 09:51, 5 October 2018 (UTC)

• • I'm really sorry, but how can anyone in their sane mind call an authoritarian such as Trotsky a freedom of speech supporter? Like, dude was an oppressor of the groups he didn't like, even if they were leftists, such as Makhno, and the rest of the Ukrainian anarchists, quoting the last wiki; «The Bolsheviks began their formal efforts to disempower Makhno on 4 June 1919 with Trotsky's Order No. 1824, which forbade electing a congress and attempted to discredit Makhno by stating: "The Makhno brigade has constantly retreated before the White Guards, owing to the incapacity, criminal tendencies, and the treachery of its leaders."». Thus, unless you want to call Wikipedia, and the references included in this website not trustworthy, refrain from contradicting it, or, even better, improve it, add the so impartial marxists.org website as a reference to edit the wiki. --ImLulz (talk) 06:47, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

• • • You could have used less words to say that you're a nazi. 91.248.94.10 (talk) 04:00, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 March 2022

77.231.191.51 (talk) 15:08, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

Was*

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis (talk) 15:15, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

Remove exaggeration/puffery warning labels?

I've made extensive edits to sanitize. Any objection to me removing the warning labels? It may strike some as an advertisement because her accomplishments are pretty remarkable. Open to further suggestions too, thanks. Schmiebel (talk) 22:38, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

+1 I reviewed your edits and they look good. Reading this article, the critique doesn't seem to hold up. I'm in favor of removing the template. BubbleBub (talk) 02:11, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

Reply: Thanks for reviewing! I will give it one more day to see if anybody else objects.Schmiebel (talk) 18:49, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 August 2022

122.176.9.165 (talk) 14:54, 9 August 2022 (UTC)Susan wojcicki is the most

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. PlanetJuice (talk • contribs) 15:25, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

Can the page be unlocked?

I think the squabble between the two editors is finished.

I feel there is a lot of positive endorsement going on on this page, it reads far from neutral, so I want to rewrite some bits to make it more factual and less shoulder patting. Chrisvdhogen (talk) 09:18, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

For example: "Wojcicki has emphasized educational content as a priority for the company, and on July 20, 2018, announced the initiative YouTube Learning, which invests in grants and promotion to support education focused creator content."

Changed to: Wojcicki has been involved in the YouTube Learning initiative, which invests in grants and promotion to support education focused creator content."

And more like this Chrisvdhogen (talk) 09:22, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

Etnicity in intro

Can the Americans on Wikipedia stop pretending that having a Polish father means you are Polish American if you are born in the US? No one cares if your grandfather was Irish or Italian or if your dad was Polish, that does not make you Polish American. 85.149.2.19 (talk) 19:26, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

MOS:CONTEXTBIO is fairly clear on what goes in the intro section of the lead and ethnicity is explicitly excluded from that unless there is a significant tie to why notable. Whether or not she has Polish citizenship is not really relevant as she has done no notable actives in Poland and everything notable was done as an American in the US. As for Polish citizenship, she might be entitled to it per jus sanguinis, but there is nothing in the article that supports that or if she claimed it. Geraldo Perez (talk) 16:29, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 April 2024

The part in "Personal Life" currently says "Suspected Drug overdose" but the only source is his grandmother, Esther Wojcicki. All other sources say:

• The university did not answer questions about whether Troper died from a drug overdose, saying his death is under investigation.
• While police sources told People the cause of death is unknown, Troper's grandmother...

Additionally, the toxicology report is still outstanding:

• Wojcicki told the outlet that a toxicology report will take up to 30 days to receive results.

However, there's nothing new about the cause of death as of writing this.

That's why I believe it should be changed to something like "On February 13, 2024, Wojcicki's son Marco passed away while a student at the University of California, Berkeley. His grandmother has stated that he ingested a drug, though its specifics and the exact cause of death remain unclear." Akutasan (talk) 09:56, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

 Done Charliehdb (talk) 11:52, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Partially reverted. @Charliehdb: Per MOS:EUPHEMISM, saying "passed away" is not acceptable. Please take note of this in the future. Edit requests must conform to relevant guidelines. InfiniteNexus (talk) 00:05, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

@InfiniteNexus Thanks for the information. Charliehdb (talk) 09:48, 21 April 2024 (UTC)