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- Why are you saying it's suicide? The investigation is ongoing!
Various credible secondary sources - in this case, mainstream news outlets - reported that Mumbai's[1][2] and the AIIMS'[3] medical examiners determined it was suicide and that Rhea Chakraborty is being accused of abetment of suicide.[4][5] Note that the final determination of death doesn't mean the investigation is over, especially in a case involving a celebrity (see also Chris Benoit double-murder and suicide). We are also not allowed to cite investigation or government documents as they are considered primary sources.
- This death is mysterious! Why aren't you calling it as such?
The actual mechanism of death - asphyxia via hanging - is publicly known and not seriously disputed by any sensible party. We also do not use words or terms that imply profoundness where there is only vagueness in Wikipedia's voice - they must always be attributed.
- This is a case of murder! Why aren't you saying so?
No official investigations or credible news reports are calling Rajput's death a murder, with the CBI-sanctioned AIIMS autopsy review definitively ruling it out.[3] Wikipedia does not include fringe or conspiracy theories that no credible source is taking seriously, and our biographical policy likewise forbids us from including them in this particular instance.
- Why are you rejecting my interpretation of the sources?
We're not allowed to synthesize new information by "reading between the lines". We are limited to whatever information the source explicitly says. Creative interpretations of sources also flagrantly violate our biographical policy.
- The Central Bureau of Investigation said (something)! Why aren't you mentioning this?!
The CBI has outright stated that they are not shar[ing] any details of the investigation with the media
and that any claims attributed to it (As of the time of this writing, 19 September 2020 UTC) are not credible
.[6] It should be noted this is generally standard operating procedure for serious investigations the world over, generally to avoid prejudicing the case before it goes to a jury or (as has happened here) inflaming a trial by media.
- Why are you censoring his height?
Unless a person is notable specifically for their height or their height is otherwise relevant (such as for sports where height/weight is a major factor), Wikipedia's policy is to omit height from a person's article and infoboxes. Sushant Singh Rajput's article is no exception; the only time height was ever mentioned in the article was either as the result of unsourced edits prior to the announcement of his death or additions made immediately after the news broke on social media, all instances of which were reverted quickly on the English-language Wikipedia for having no source and which would shortly after be removed from the article on Hindi Wikipedia for the same reason. See Talk:Sushant_Singh_Rajput/Archive_1#Height for more details.
- If the news of Rajput's demise broke around 2:15 p.m. then why did the article have death info around 9 am?
The confusion here is of time zones. News broke around 2:15 p.m. IST. Wikipedia shows timestamps in UTC. IST is 5 hour 30 minutes ahead of UTC. Death info first appeared in article at 8:55 UTC (this edit) which means at 14:25 IST (2:25 p.m.)
- What about Sushant's sister Priyanka? Doesn't she get a say in this?
Unless she (or one of her supporters) has additional sources that can back up her assertions, no. It should be noted that Priyanka is herself the subject of an FIR in connection with the case.[7]
- Why are you rejecting my edit request out of hand?
When someone requests an edit that is very likely to be challenged, they are required to provide links to credible published secondary sources that support the edit they wish to make. In addition, requests to make edits against a consensus or that are part of an ongoing dispute will generally be declined.
References
- ^ https://www.indiatoday.in/movies/celebrities/story/sushant-singh-rajput-suicide-final-postmortem-report-says-no-external-injuries-or-foul-play-1692307-2020-06-24
- ^ https://punemirror.indiatimes.com/entertainment/bollywood/sushant-singh-rajput-case-rhea-chakraborty-moves-sc-against-unfair-media-trial-swara-bhaskar-comes-out-in-her-support/articleshow/77461985.cms
- ^ a b https://www.indiatoday.in/movies/celebrities/story/sushant-singh-rajput-murder-completely-ruled-out-it-was-suicide-dr-sudhir-gupta-of-aiims-1727920-2020-10-03
- ^ https://indianexpress.com/article/india/sushant-singh-rajput-case-enforcement-directorate-books-rhea-chakraborty-6532733/
- ^ https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/from-theft-cheating-to-breach-of-trust-sushant-singh-rajput-s-father-charges-against-rhea-chakraborty/story-DkKuZSXUmBsxhBip9piO3N.html
- ^ https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/cbi-says-most-reports-attributed-to-it-in-sushant-singh-rajput-case-not-credible/story-ufP8aolIa3VgPWtiGkg1jN.html#:~:text=In%20its%20first%20official%20statement,on%20facts%E2%80%9D%3B%20but%20are%20%E2%80%9C
- ^ https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/magazines/panache/supreme-court-rejects-plea-by-sushant-singh-rajputs-sister-to-dismiss-mumbai-police-fir-filed-by-rhea-chakraborty/articleshow/81702727.cms?from=mdr
Sushant Singh Rajput was murderd
editPlease change this suicide it was murderd 103.198.173.63 (talk) 21:13, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
- Do you have a source for that? AntiDionysius (talk) 21:20, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
- Please see the FAQ at the top of this page. 331dot (talk) 21:42, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
You have a right to declare sushant singh rajuptcause of death?
editIf you are saying you can't rely on any party or relatives 'information than why do you rely on other parties statement. Moreover ,not even a single pictures is out which show him hanging with fan .He was lying on his bed . It would be wiser to Change the cause of death to a "under investigation" from "suicide by hanging". 27.255.171.250 (talk) 19:07, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- Please see the FAQ at the top of this page, which touches on many of the points you are making. 331dot (talk) 20:10, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- No,my main question is when not even a single pictures is out which show him hanging with fan why you declared the cause of death? 27.255.185.74 (talk) 18:58, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
- Read the FAQ. Any further replies that indicate you have not read it will be reverted off. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v Source assessment notes 19:30, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
- No,my main question is when not even a single pictures is out which show him hanging with fan why you declared the cause of death? 27.255.185.74 (talk) 18:58, 3 February 2024 (UTC)