Talk:Sustainable business

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• Keep This is a very valid topic that is likely to become very expanded.
• Comment I have added information in the history section and deleted a link to what appeared to be a commercial web site that appears to be what caused the recommendation for speedy deletion. I believe this is a real topic and an article that I will probably revisit to improve. Ronreed 07:06, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

Green business

Is there a way to link this article so that it appears under searches for "green business"? I strongly believe the 2 names are related.

I agree. I actually searched for that first before searching for sustainable business and finding this. I have created a redirect. Plymouths 18:36, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Please Keep. There is also much more that can be linked here on Business and Human Rights, for example the work of the United Nations Special Representative on Business and Human Rights. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.139.235.80 (talk) 22:26, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Merge proposal: Sustainability practices in organizations

I have tagged that article for merger here. It is a rather woolly essay, so there may not be much useful to bring in, but I'll leave that for editors here to decide. Anyway, it tries to cover the same topic as is covered here. Itsmejudith (talk) 20:50, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Sustainable economy redirects to Sustainable business?

It doesn't seem right that Sustainable economy redirects to Sustainable business. Sustainable economy is a much larger scope that involves (oddly enough) economics at a national and international level and presumably would discuss such things as the ISEW, the GPI and the reliance of standard economics on continuous economic and population growth. Thanks. --220.253.116.9 (talk) 02:33, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Actually, never mind. Being bold and changing the redirect myself to point at Sustainability#Economic_dimension --220.253.116.9 (talk) 03:06, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Proposed External Link

I propose adding an external link: "Network for Business Sustainability" - http://nbs.net . Funded by academic research grants, the Network is a non-profit organization whose goal is to put reliable academic research into the hands of business managers - for free - so that they can make decisions that are economically, environmentally and socially beneficial.

I work for the Network. Our Topic Editors are university professors (some of them Deans of Canadian business schools), and our research is all subjected to rigorous standards of objectivity and reproducibility. PlanetProfitsPeople (talk) 14:10, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Suggest adding the Six Essential Characteristics

Can someone tell me why this was removed?

A mature and authentic sustainable business could contain these six essentials. These essentials are rooted in many sustainability principals but are also dynamic as well. There is no reason in the future for essentials not to shift or adjust as we evolve our understanding of a sustainable business.

1. Triple Top-line Value Production

"The TTL Establishes three simultaneous requirements of sustainable business activities - financial benefits for the company, natural world betterment, and social advantages for employees and members of the local community - with each of these three components recognized as equal in status." Note that other do call this the Triple Bottom Line but triple top line stresses the importance of initial value rather than after the fact effects.

2. Nature - Based Knowledge and Technology

"This biomimicry-based principal involves the conscious emulation of natural-world genius in terms of growing our food, harnessing our energy, constructing things, conducting business healing ourselves, processing information and designing our communities"

3. Products of Service to Products of Consumption

"Products of service are durable goods routinely leased by the customer that are made of technical materials and that are returned to the manufacturer and re-processed into a new generation of products when they their usefulness.(These products are mostly non-toxic to human and environmental health but toxic materials that are used will be kept within a closed loop type system and not escape into the environment). Products of consumption are shorter lived items made only of biodegradable materials that are broken down by the detritus organisms after the products lose their usefulness.(These are non - toxic as well) This principal requires that we manufacture only these two types of products and necessitates the gradual but continual reductions of products of service and their replacement with products of consumption as technological advancements allow." [Cradle to Cradle for other thoughts on Technical(Products of Service) and Biological(Products of consumption) nutrients.]

4. Solar, Wind, Geothermal and Ocean Energy

"This principal advocates employing only sustainable energy technology - solar,wind,ocean and geothermal - that can meet our energy needs indefinitely without negative effects for life on earth."

5. Local-Based Organizations and Economies

"This ingredient includes durable, beautiful and healthy communities with locally owned and operated businesses and locally managed non-profit organizations, along with regional corporations and shareholders working together in a dense web of partnerships and collaborations." To See examples of the importance of local business.

6. Continuous Improvement Process

"Operational processes inside successful organizations include provisions for constant advancements and upgrade as the company does its business. The continuous process of monitoring, analyzing, redesigning and implementing is used to intensify TTL value production as conditions change and new opportunities emerge."

References

Minor edits on 9/2/2010

Please note that any changes made on 9/2/2010 were to minor non-disputable typographical errors only. For example, I changed "ad" to "and." —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ostbying (talk • contribs) 14:18, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

RiskMetrics Carbon Beta

Perhaps that a link to RiskMetrics Carbon Beta can be added. This was a tool to put a price on the financial risk a company had due to the co² emissions the company was emitting. Appearantly, it's been taken over by MSCI, and I can't find it there anymore. It has been mentioned by http://blogs.natlogic.com/friend/

Proposed merge with Sustainable dentistry

There is no consensus for a merge of sustainable dentistry to sustainable business.

Cunard (talk) 01:40, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Nothing in sustainable dentistry is unique to dental practice and seems largely redundant with general sustainable business. Not worth having specific sustainable basketweaving articles unless there's something unique about each field. 49ersBelongInSanFrancisco (talk) 06:30, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

Agree with merge, there's a large overlap between both topics. Most of the redundant content doesn't even need merging and should be omitted, as it is already covered in a broader business context (aside from the medical aspect, dentistry is just one business among hundreds). The current dentistry-specific article lacks unique details for a separate topic (and also has some WP:NPOV issues regarding a truely uninvolved point of view). Maybe ref #3 (the UN agenda) could be moved over in some relevant context. GermanJoe (talk) 20:30, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

Disagree with merge. Currently, there are two kinds of dentistry available in the US. One is the traditional dental practice, comprising one or a few dentists who own the practice, hire the staff and are responsible for providing a high standard of care to patients. The other is corporate dentistry. Dental corporations hire dentists as 1099 employees and provide a minimal standard of care to patients. Dentists are not free to do what they know, through training and experience, to be the best solution for the patient, but must, instead do as the corporation directs or lose their jobs. Dental corporations exist to make money for shareholders and generally demonstrate little interest in long term patient welfare. They appear to know nothing about the triple bottom line or if they do know, they don't act on the information. By contrast, dentists who work in their own practices see themselves as healthcare professionals and community leaders whose responsibility is to their patients, and not to a faceless corporation. To confuse these two very different ways of providing dental care is to do a serious disservice to dentists in traditional practice and to the public. To them, dentistry is not a business as much as it is a vocation. With regard to the content of the Sustainable Dentistry page, it is a work in progress that will be greatly expanded in the near future.Robin McMullen 21:57, 28 January 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by RobinMcM (talk • contribs)

I can't see that RobinMcM's argument addresses the topic under discussion. The argument he seems to present is independent good, corporate bad which doesn't address the topic of Sustainable dentistry at all, given the definition on the page and in the references. Its therefore an unreferenced claimed. However, I suggest that the references, from a large dental professional publication, do support independent notability of the topic. On these grounds, I oppose the merge. Klbrain (talk) 23:26, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

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