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"remoteless and keyless entry"? Is this a typo? I'm thinking "remote keyless entry" would make more sense...

Mini-SUV?

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Latest comment: 17 years ago6 comments2 people in discussion

Is anyone really calling this a "mini SUV"? It sure looks like what I'd call a "compact car". Friday (talk) 03:05, 29 June 2007 (UTC)Reply


Its a crossover. Too big to be a compact car, but too small to be a SUV. I think the fact that it has AWD adds to the "mini SUV" statement, but it's a crossover for sure. Tenbit 15:38, 29 June 2007 (UTC)Reply

Too big? I don't see that- have you looked at the dimensions and weight? It's a couple hundred lbs lighter than my compact car. AWD is becoming increasingly common on plain old passenger cars. But I suppose we should go by what the sources say rather than inventing our own criteria. Friday (talk) 15:43, 29 June 2007 (UTC)Reply
From the link in the article, "The SX4 is positioned to butt heads with the Honda Civic and Toyota Corolla in the States." This sure makes it sound like it's in the compact car segment to me. Friday (talk) 15:54, 29 June 2007 (UTC)Reply


Yeah I get your point, I am going by European standards for compact cars. My SX4 is a LOT bigger than my Clio and Alto ever was. However, I heard this was supposed to be the new rival for the WRX in other articles. Maybe they were talking in terms of WRC Tenbit 15:57, 29 June 2007 (UTC)Reply

Oh, right, the classifications are different depending where you go. I think it's similar sizewise to the WRX and can be had in a wagon body style, but the WRX actually has decent performance. With this thing's little 140horse engine, I guess they call that adequate, but it's hardly going to have good acceleration. For what it's worth, I don't see anything calling the WRX any kind of crossover or SUV. It's a sport compact, available as a sedan or a wagon. Friday (talk) 16:06, 29 June 2007 (UTC)Reply

4WD

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Latest comment: 5 years ago3 comments3 people in discussion

May I suggest changing all the "4WD" in this article to "AWD", as it is an AWD car, not 4WD. 4WD suggests you can take this car offroad like say, a Jeep. Tenbit 15:43, 29 June 2007 (UTC)Reply

Agreed, and changed. Friday (talk) 15:44, 29 June 2007 (UTC)Reply


Ι live in the USA and I own a 2011 Suzuki SX4. It is no longer offered (new) Suzuki has left the American market around 2015 or so. Btw, it was and still is advertised as "small SUV" but for its compact size is a heavier than average car, thus the not so good MPG. Also, the SX4 Crossover with a flip of a switch can be selected to drive as a 2WD, a 4WD (with intelligent wheel control) and an AWD where all wheels are locked and receive the same (25% each) amount of power. It was a great car until the first 50K miles after that it developed a number of problems, i.e. very noisy on the road, clunking noises from the undercarriage, frequent replacement of ball joints, rubber bushings, struts, shocks, etc, and a declining MPG (at its worst it went from 25/32 when new to a 20/25 while Suzuki advertised it as 23/28 (city/hwy). The CVT transmission started making clicking noises but dealership had a lifetime warranty with Suzuki so it was replaced for free (with a small $100) deductible. Overall, an OK city car but definitely not for serious/heavy usage. Perhaps perfect for a college student living in areas where snow fall is heavy, the only thing this car excels at is with driving in snow with the AWD in lock and around 35 mph when all other conventional transmission cars are basically at a standstill. No, I will not recommend this car to anyone who is a serious driver and expects a long and mostly trouble-free relationship with their car. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xwpis ONOMA (talk • contribs) 14:07, 7 June 2019 (UTC)Reply

speculation

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Latest comment: 17 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

please can i change this text, this it to mutch speculation.

"An expected 60,000 units will be produced — 2/3 to be sold by Suzuki and 1/3 by Fiat, rebadged as the Sedici, and a Lancia sister model is expected for 2007. "

"So far, sales have been strong in the U.S"

How match in numbers ?

In the Netherlands in june 2007 250 were sold by Suzuki and 148 by Fiat. Stef --World arm lamp 22:16, 20 July 2007 (UTC)Reply


S-Cross

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Latest comment: 10 years ago5 comments2 people in discussion

@OSX: I appreciate your being bold, but a discussion would have been beneficial before the merge. Namely, Suzuki SX4 S-Cross is not really a second generation of SX4: the first generation is still being produced, and they don't plan to discontinue it as yet. S-Cross is a class higher, i.e. a compact SUV, while SX4 is more of a compact car or mini SUV. True, they do share a part of the name and certain design elements, but the manufacturers themselves stated that this is a new vehicle, not a replacement for the old. Because the two cars are rather different, I believe the readers would be better served with separate articles for each. Now, we have multiple infoboxes in one large article, and there are issues with categorization (we should keep this one in both "compact SUV" and "mini SUV" category; navigation templates at the bottom still point at separate articles). No such user (talk) 09:48, 14 July 2014 (UTC)Reply

Just because they are sold alongside one another for a while is not justification for their separation. Many cars are sold long after their successors are launched for a variety of reasons. In many markets the SX4 S-Cross replaces the SX4 and they are pretty much the same concept (a compact hatchback on stilts with almost the same name). There is hardly enough content to justify generational separation.
Plenty of sources confirm they are successors: [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6]. OSX (talk • contributions) 11:08, 5 August 2014 (UTC)Reply
And plenty of sources claim they're not. [7] [8], including the Suzuki themselves [9]: Suzuki’s designers and engineers began developing the new model as a successor to the current SX4. However, striving to respond to customer expectations with regard to crossovers in Europe and other parts of the world, we realized that we needed to “think bigger”. If the manufacturer does not advertise it as replacement, why should we know better? At this moment, we don't even know (and even Suzuki does not seem to) whether old SX4 will have a direct successor. Thus, merging or not merging is an editorial decision. Additional arguments for not merging are 1) slightly different names 2) different categories (SX4 is smaller and, rightly or wrongly, belongs to category:Mini sport utility vehicles, while S-Cross belongs to category:Compact sport utility vehicles) 3) Navigation templates. No such user (talk) 11:42, 5 August 2014 (UTC)Reply
There was no community decision to fork the content in the first place when you did so in May 2014 [10], so I am merely restoring to the original state. Plenty of sources? You linked to just one (via two identical links). I'm sorry, reliable third party sources state otherwise (6 of which I found in under 2 minutes); we rely on those, not first-hand reports from Suzuki. The two cars not only share a name, but share the same concept as raised hatchbacks with minimal off-road ability. The new car is slightly larger and has new engines, hardly any different from almost every other car which gets larger at each redesign. The only main difference that I can see is Suzuki has dumped the cheaper non-crossover models that competed with the Corolla, Mazda3, etc and kept only the Nissan Qashqai-esque crossover version. Plenty of cars change their scope slightly at the time of a redesign, adding or removing body styles, yet the articles remain as one. For example, the Honda Accord sold globally consists of a single page dealing with all the vastly different models (mid-size for Japan and Europe, full-size for the US). Toyota LiteAce/TownAce deals with two different distinct lines of inter-related vans and light trucks. Mitsubishi Mirage deals with what started as a low-slung 3-door hatchback destined for Western markets, later expanded to include a coupe, sedan, etc, and was placed on hiatus for a decade before it's revival in 2012 by a tall-bodied 5-door hatchback aimed at developing markets. Suzuki Ignis deals with the "mainstream" subcompact hatchback model, and the re-engineered Chevrolet Cruze crossover model all in the same page. OSX (talk • contributions) 12:43, 5 August 2014 (UTC)Reply
I did not fork (copy) the content, I properly split it with attribution when it became clear that the S-Cross was not a successor in the narrow sense, and that the articles would better work separated. And this being a wiki, nobody needs a prior approval for doing an edit one feels improves the encyclopedia. (By the way, I wrote most of the content about S-Cross, but I don't own it.)
Meta-issues aside, I won't insist on splitting, but I think the solution you opted for is not optimal. However, it is not worth fighting, the material is still there. Time will tell what Suzuki wanted with their gamma (and I have a hunch that they don't even know it themselves). No such user (talk) 13:35, 5 August 2014 (UTC)Reply
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