Talk:Svante Arrhenius

Latest comment: 1 year ago by 130.233.143.158 in topic The pronunciation of his name

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Greta Thumberg what? What is the link? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.91.51.235 (talk) 16:41, 22 October 2019 (UTC)Reply

From what I've read, Olof Thunberg (Greta Thunberg's grandfather) named his son Svante Thunberg (Greta's father) after his own grandfather, Svante Arrhenius (Greta's great-great-grandfather). 2601:1C1:8A00:1700:DDBF:A05:8F92:1 (talk) 20:44, 23 October 2019 (UTC)Reply
The same claim is made on the talk page Talk:Olof Thunberg. If true, given Arrhenius' contribution to the understanding of the Greenhouse effect and his great-great-granddaughter's efforts to mitigate it, the familial link should be mentioned. JezGrove (talk) 21:51, 26 February 2020 (UTC)Reply
We should mention that they were on opposite sides of the issue. Arrhenius famously predicted that climate change from rising CO2 levels would be very beneficial, and Greta takes the opposite position. (Thus far, the evidence supports Arrhenius.) NCdave (talk) 04:41, 27 February 2020 (UTC)Reply

Greta Thunberg is not descended from Arrhenius (and neither was her grandfather Olof), so you will find no reliable source claiming she is.
From what I can see on the genealogy website I link to below, Greta's great-great-grandmother was a 2nd cousin of Arrhenius, so they are descended from common ancestors.
I don't know though if there are any WP:RELIABLE sources for stating the above in an article.

Arrhenius's mother was born Carolina Christina Thunberg. Here is a genealogy page for Carolina Christina's grandfather Petter Johansson, who together with his wife appears to be the last common ancestor of Arrhenius and Greta:

According to that genealogy site, Svante Arrhenius's 2nd cousin (on the branch of Petter's daughter Catharina Elisabeth Pettersdotter) Augusta Margareta Thunberg was the great-grandmother of Greta's father Svante, who in the Thunberg family's book Our House Is on Fire is said to be named after his distant relative Arrhenius. --Fyrisdal (talk) 17:26, 8 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

Later years

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In the "Later years" section it is written that, "Around 1930, conservative members of the society helped to establish eugenic policies in Sweden."

But 1930 was several years after Arrhenius' death, so it seems unfair to blame him for that. I propose that we delete that sentence, because it really has nothing to do with Arrhenius, and it has unfairly derogatory overtones, since there's no way to know whether or not he would have supported those eugenic policies (whatever they were -- I don't know).

Does anyone disagree? NCdave (talk) 04:56, 27 February 2020 (UTC)Reply

I guess nobody disagrees, so I've deleted that sentence. NCdave (talk) 07:11, 2 May 2020 (UTC)Reply
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Looking at the Swedish article sv:Anna-Lisa Arrhenius-Wold, I don't see Arrhenius-Wold fulfilling English Wp's WP:NACADEMIC criteria, and hence per the red link guideline there should be no red link for her.

Svante Wold may be notable only for being a member of the Royal Swedish Academy of Engineering Sciences. Gustaf Arrhenius is more clearly notable: a member of the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences, Guggenheim Fellow, and other things. Olof Arrhenius [sv; fr; ru] should be notable for phosphate analysis in archaeology (in addition to membership in two royal academies). --Fyrisdal (talk) 16:23, 31 October 2020 (UTC)Reply

I agree with you--Htmlzycq (talk) 18:04, 1 November 2020 (UTC)Reply

Why was there opposition to his promotions?

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On more than one occasion it's noted that there was strong opposition to Arrhenius's promotion to an important position. Were there particular things about Arrhenius that tended to invite opposition, whether professional, personal, or both? TooManyFingers (talk) 17:12, 12 September 2022 (UTC)Reply


The pronunciation of his name

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What is the point of showing a non-Swedish pronunciation of his name? Its a Swedish name, so its pronounced in Swedish. I guess that the first pronunciation shown in the article is supposed to be English, but his name is not an English word, so I don't understand how could there even be consensus on what a correct English pronunciation would be. If Wikipedia insists on having made up pronunciations of non-English names, could the actual (in this case Swedish) pronunciation at least be shown first? Or could the first pronunciation just be removed, as there aren't made up pronunciations in the articles for Euler and Gauss either? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.233.143.158 (talk) 10:53, 14 December 2022 (UTC)Reply