Talk:Sylvia Toh

Latest comment: 16 days ago by Lycheekoala24 in topic Question regarding Sylvia Toh's Chinese name

Trouble with references

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This person's name is all over the Net, usually as signature attached to her writings. There seems to be very little about her out there. Definitely exists, what little is written here is probably right, hard to attach WP:RS style references. Might not satisfy WP:N because of that. --Alvestrand (talk) 22:45, 20 January 2010 (UTC)Reply

I have removed the claim, inserted by an IP in 2006, that she "now lives in the Bahamas". This claim has been the object of ridicule by her colleague [1], and the subject explicitly contradicted this in one of her books [2]. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 09:15, 5 September 2018 (UTC)Reply

Question regarding Sylvia Toh's Chinese name

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I noticed that Sylvia Toh's Chinese name is given as "杜白秋" in the article. However, the source given is is a Chinese-language article from Deutsche Wellle, which I think is either machine-translated, or translated by someone whom I suspect is not familiar with Singapores or Malaysian Chinese names.

I searched "杜白秋" on NewspaperSG (Singaporean newspaper archives), and there were no matches. On Google, I did indeed find an 8world interview of Sylvia Toh, which gave her Chinese name as "杜白秋". https://www.8world.com/singapore/mother-of-singlish-sylvia-toh-2395841 However, I am worried that it could be a case of cito-genesis, whereby the writer found Sylvia Toh's Chinese name online and used it in their article without clarifying with Sylvia Toh herself.

Based on my own understanding of Singaporean / Malaysian Chinese names, "Paik Choo" is more likely to be "碧珠". I did find a 1986 Chinese newspaper article which translate her name as "杜碧珠". However, I couldn't find any sources to cross-reference. https://eresources.nlb.gov.sg/newspapers/digitised/article/lhzb19860804-1.2.12.15 Lycheekoala24 (talk) 09:34, 14 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

An English and Chinese obituary belonging to Sylvia Toh's father, Kenneth Toh Mah Keong / 杜马恭, indicates that Sylvia Toh's Chinese name is indeed 杜碧珠:
Kenneth Toh's Chinese obituary: https://eresources.nlb.gov.sg/newspapers/digitised/article/lhzb19850706-1.2.51
Kenneth Toh's English obituary: https://eresources.nlb.gov.sg/newspapers/digitised/article/straitstimes19850705-1.2.62.2
A 2024 Facebook post further confirms that Toh Paik Choo's father was named Kenneth Toh:
https://www.facebook.com/violet.oon.92/photos/even-more-born-days-happy-103rd-birthday-to-the-late-mr-kenneth-toh-the-life-of-/10160399539865910/?_rdr
I will edit the Wikipedia article accordingly. Lycheekoala24 (talk) 10:22, 14 November 2024 (UTC)Reply