Talk:Syndicate (1993 video game)

PSP version really using a SNES emulator?

I don't see any evidence in the linked reference that the game uses a SNES emulator to run the game on the PSP. The reference is to an IGN review of the game, who would not be privy to information like this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.153.129.39 (talk) 21:03, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

GOG and "where to buy"

On several occasions, I've removed links to Good Old Games. Wikipedia isn't a directory or a form of advertisement and we don't tell people where to buy products, either in references or external links. The exceptions are when we allow an external link to the official website of the article's subject (where, presumably, you could buy it), or when a legitimate review or news article happens to mention where to purchase a product. In this case, the GameSpy article serves no other purpose than to say "buy this here". Simply replace "Good Old Games" with "Amazon.com" or "GameStop" or "Wal-Mart" and you'll see why this isn't appropriate. Wyatt Riot (talk) 03:40, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

that you removed GOG links already several times makes your actions not more correct or somehow supported by some WP consensus. additionally, this time there was no GOG wikilink anymore so I see your removal as completly unbased, you also removed an complettly valid supporting gamespy ref. So, I will undo your removal because it is only based on your unsupportted interpretation that this is advertisment. If you disagree come back with a better supported argument. Shaddim (talk) 12:57, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

The internal link is only a small part of the problem. The external link directly to the seller's page and an amateurish, sham news story are the real issue here. Wikipedia doesn't exist to sell things, and we don't advertise for companies. Those values are at the core of What Wikipedia is not. We've already got external links to both MobyGames and GameSpot, where our readers can get information about purchasing the game if they wish. Wyatt Riot (talk) 13:12, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

more specific: WP is not about where to buy, that's true. but this factual inclusion is also not about where tho buy it's about the history of an product, which is an fact, and also what WP IS about. and the fact that an discontinued product is re-released after long time is an fact which is encyclopedic worth enough, especially if this is supported by accepted sources (gamespy is an accepted ref source). Also, if you look sharp on my specific formulation, I tried to focus on the fact that it IS re-released and not on the fact by whom (GOG). the who & where info was complettly removed in the second version, to adapt to your "advertisement" fears. So, I really can't follow your interpretation that this is advertisment. could you agree in inclusion if the external gog link is removed but the valid note of gamespy is kept? Shaddim (talk) 13:18, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Reluctantly, yes. The reference still looks like an advertisement to me, and it's even got a misspelling, which reflects poorly on us using it as a reference, but overall GameSpy is a reliable source. I would also say that, should a more lengthy review or news article come along that mentions purchase details, we replace the GameSpy ref with that if possible. Wyatt Riot (talk) 13:33, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

thanks for consensus, I adapted the text accordingly, and keep on looking for a better source. Shaddim (talk) 14:33, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Cool. If I come across any other refs, I'll include them. Cheers! Wyatt Riot (talk) 14:47, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

In-game image - which platform?

The image File:Syndicate screenshot.png (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) was initially included here in Aug 2006 with the caption "PC version". The article currently states "Acorn Archimedes version", although I don't know when the text was changed, and the file page still states PC. The original file was replaced in Dec 2007 (by an editor who appears not to have edited the article) so perhaps that was a different version. Any ideas? -- Trevj (talk) 15:00, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

If I remember rightly, it was a screen capture from a DosBox instance running the PC version of Syndicate, so I don't know why it's been labelled as from the Archimedes. Prioryman (talk) 13:16, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

Unless there's something I'm doing completely wrong, the previous image revision seems to be the same content; the new revision only, as the uploader's summary states, optimised the image with PNGOUT. Salvidrim! ✉ 17:10, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for looking into this. Unless anyone else knows anything different, it seems that the original caption should stand, so I've reinstated it. -- Trevj (talk) 20:06, 15 January 2013 (UTC) Investigating a little more, I see that this was reverted in 2010 too! -- Trevj (talk) 20:12, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

I'm not sure I can support a caption such as "PC Version" when there is, indeed, no evidence that this is the case. Perhaps something more neutral, such as "In-game screenshot" might be preferable until the source can be ascertained? Or another similar image with clearer origin could be used to replace it. Salvidrim! ✉ 20:43, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

I understand, except that it was in the caption used by the original image uploader (linked above). -- Trevj (talk) 21:55, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

Just take another screenshot, swap it and it's done. In other news, I wanted to re-write this article for a long time. If anyone wants to do it, one tip is there were many working titles (including BOB, Higher Functions and Cyber Assault) if you want to look for the early development articles in the old magazines or online - they basically scrapped most of the planned (and early hyped) content due to hardware limitations. (In a semi-related note, Bullfrog's Magic Carpet actually started development as an Amiga game, I think it had a working title 1001 Nights or something like that and somehow it was already bitmap 3D based game, and its article needs a complete rewrite). --Niemti (talk) 22:59, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

I would tend to agree that it might be preferable to take a new screenshot with a clearer source. Salvidrim! ✉ 23:06, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. I don't have the game, nor am set up to run it under emulation so can't easily take a new screenshot. I'm not really that fussed about the caption, the file for which I came across while doing a bit of recategorisation - if someone wants to omit the version text completely, I'm fine with that but I see no great harm in keeping it in accordance with that included by the original uploader. -- Trevj (talk) 06:43, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

A PC/SNES comparison might complement well the comments about the 16-bit ports in the Release subsection. I'll see what I can do next weekend. I think I have a copy of the PC game somewhere in my garage. Salvidrim! ✉ 08:25, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Guys, there lots of screenshots online. --Niemti (talk) 10:50, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

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Bestselling or commercially successful?

This is game supposed to be a bestseller and/or commercial success or neither? Why? Thomas Wiencek (talk) 02:55, 28 August 2024 (UTC)