Talk:Syntactic bootstrapping

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I will take the plans below into account as I migrate the information on syntactic bootstrapping from Bootstrapping (linguistics) to this page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Olíe (talk • contribs) 02:22, 7 December 2017 (UTC)

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Plan for future edits:

• Add a source from Gleitman because she seems important to this theory
  • Gleitman 1990, “The Structural Source of Verb Meanings” (?) for definitions
• Determine whether to credit Roger Brown 1957 or Gleitman 1990.
  • Include direct source/research from Brown and Gleitman
• Add descriptions of specific experiments to the Evidence section
• Make it less vague
• Cite sources
• Add a section about the controversy/debate between semantic (Pinker) and syntactic bootstrapping.
• Include specific people who challenged the idea of syntactic bootstrapping, and their perspectives and evidence against syntactic bootstrapping
• Discuss other types of bootstrapping.
• Specify actual controversy against syntactic bootstrapping versus cross-linguistic syntactic bootstrapping.Knowlin4 (talk) 17:47, 6 October 2016 (UTC)

Possible Sources for Article:

Tomasello's article can be seen as evidence that syntactic bootstrapping doesn't occur. His studies suggest that children learn based off categories and not the structures of syntax.

• Tomasello, Michael. "Do Young Children Have Adult Syntactic Competence?" Cognition 74.3 (2000): 209-53. Web

Gertner and Fisher can provide evidence supporting this form of bootstrapping as well as an example to include in the page.

• Gertner, Yael, and Cynthia Fisher. "Predicted Errors in Children’s Early Sentence Comprehension." Cognition 124.1 (2012): 85-94. Web. Knowlin4 (talk) 16:05, 7 October 2016 (UTC)

• Pinker, Steven (1994). "How could a child use verb syntax to learn verb semantics?". Lingua. 92: 377–410. https://www.academia.edu/661174/How_could_a_child_use_verb_syntax_to_learn_verb_semantics_1

This is a criticism by Pinker of Gleitman. He argues that syntactic categories are used in acquisition but are insufficient to account for everything Gleitman claims. He mentions some solutions to the problems he sees with Gleitman's theory: he is convinced of syntactic bootstrapping to a point, but not convinced it's as widely applicable as Gletiman claims. It's an older source but it provides an example of direct criticism.--JordanAMSmith (talk) 18:57, 7 October 2016 (UTC)

• Lee, Joanne N.; Naigles, Letitia R. (2008). "Mandarin learners use syntactic bootstrapping in verb acquisition". Cognition. 106 (2): 1028–1037.

Can't provide a link here. This article is a followup of Lee and Naigles 2005 work with syntactic bootstrapping & Mandarin (the one that's cited in the "Challenges to the validity of syntactic bootstrapping across languages" section. The conclusion drawn by this article is that infants learning Mandarin categorize verbs based on the number of NP arguments, addition of another NP results in a causative understanding of the verb. --JordanAMSmith (talk) 18:57, 7 October 2016 (UTC)

• Lidz, J., Gleitman H., and Gleitman, L. (2001). Kidz in the 'Hood: Syntactic Bootstrapping and the Mental Lexicon. Retrieved from http://repository.upenn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1018&context=ircs_reports

The arguments in this paper support syntactic bootstrapping but identify some ways in which it is limited. The focus is on how verbs are understood and manipulated by children and adult English speakers. -LiaK 10/07/16

• Brown, R. W. (1957). Linguistic Determinism and the Part of Speech. Retrieved from http://isites.harvard.edu/fs/docs/icb.topic1317532.files/10-22/Brown-1957.pdf

In this article, Roger Brown discusses different types of nouns and verbs and that children can understand how to use novel words when they have figured out their part of speech. We may be able to use this source to provide background of first discoveries of syntactic bootstrapping, before the term was coined. -LiaK 10/07/16

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Syntactic bootstrapping/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Jezhotwells (talk · contribs) 09:53, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

I am going to quick fail this good article nomination as it is clear that the nominator has not attempted to address any of the good article criteria. Article does not conform to the basic structures outlined in the key elemnets of the manual of style

1. Prose style is poor, reads like an essay or personal reflection, little context is provided for those unfamiliar with the subject. The lead fails to meet the criteria of WP:LEAD
2. References appear to be to reliable page sources, but page numbers are not provided meaning that the references cannot be checked. Some statements are unsupported.
3. Not really possible to judge the broadness of this article without sufficient context.
4. Appears to be neutral, but the sources may be cherry picked to support one point of view. Not sure if the coverage is broad enough.
5. Article created 3 days ago, hardly qualifies as stable.
6. No images or sound samples used.

Please read the criteria. It is pointless nominating an ill-prepared essay such as this for good article status. Jezhotwells (talk) 09:53, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

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