Talk:Synthetic element

Latest comment: 1 month ago by 98.17.180.146 in topic Fundamental particles

Disambiguation of synthetic

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   I'm kin'a spitballing (spitballing? spitballing?) here, but "synthetic element" is (tho IMO a standard term,) a metaphorical usage of the adjective — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jerzy (talkcontribs) 20:33, 20 October 2018 (UTC)Reply

Terminology: create / discover

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At the moment, the introductory section uses the term "creation" exclusively when describing new synthetic elements, while the History section uses the term "discovery" exclusively. It seems to me that one or the other should be changed so that a consistent term is used throughout the article. Specifically, I think that we should use the term "creation", because the new elements simply did not exist until that point. "Discovery" incorrectly implies that the element existed but people were unaware of it. I know that I could simply "be bold!" and make the change right now, but I'd prefer to wait a few days to see if anyone comments. --Keeves (talk) 10:05, 9 October 2020 (UTC)Reply

@Keeves: Well at least the lighter ones probably did exist before thanks to the r-process: curium we know did. So it's more that they did not exist on Earth by the time humans were on the scene. But "creation" seems definitely fine anyway, so I've changed the "discovery" and related words in History to derivatives of "creation" and "synthesis". Thank you! Double sharp (talk) 16:32, 9 October 2020 (UTC)Reply

Fundamental particles

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This article claims that "fundamental particles" can be "manipulated" to produce the synthetics. We cannot "manipulate" fundamental (fermionic) particles (directly), the electron (and bosons) excepted. The article seems to misleadingly suggest we "manipulate" quarks, neutrinos, etc. The only "fundamental particle" we can "manipulate" is the electron. Also, isn't it true that we can get certain synthetics by sitting their precursors on a shelf? Certainly, cosmic rays can create them. But just sitting their precursors near certain radioactive *natural* elements can create them, I'd guess. So, unless you view your bookshelf as a "nuclear reactor", the lead needs a rewrite, imho98.17.180.146 (talk) 20:10, 15 October 2024 (UTC)Reply