Talk:Tōkaidō (road)

Japanese

Can someone please add the correct Japanese translations as a template after Tokaido Road. - Parsa 19:43, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Title

Wouldn't a better title for this article be Tōkaidō (road)? I've never seen the road referred to as "Tokaido Road", only as "[the] Tokaido". Pinkville 03:37, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Sounds good to me. LordAmeth 10:36, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I wondered about that since it seemed redundant. Doesn't the word "Tokaido" include the word "road" or "route"? If it does, it would be "road road". - Parsa 21:23, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

That's right. The same problem arises with Temple and Shrine Names: e.g. Ise Jingu Shrine (an example I have seen in a few places). Pinkville 21:58, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Gokaido vs Gokishichido

Please note that The Gokishichidō roads should not be confused with the Gokaido (五街道, the Edo Five Routes), which were the five major roads leading to Edo during the Edo Period (1603–1867).

This article is about the Edo period road, which not only played a major role politically and economically, but also featured quite prominently in literature, drama and other arts at the time.

The ancient circuit is a separate topic, and is covered on Gokishichidō. LordAmeth 13:34, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Sorting

As this is a Tokugawa pd topic, and not a modern one, should not the stations be listed (sorted) by province, rather than by prefecture? LordAmeth 15:06, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

I think it's easier to understand when it's sorted by the modern day prefecture, though historical provinces probably should be noted (more clearly than they are now, atleast). The Japanese version doesn't give much advice because, though the Tokaido is sorted by historical provinces, the Nakasendo is just listed with no mention of their historical provinces. Douggers 00:24, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Hm.. I do take your point. Still, I for one, as a historian, know the provinces far better than the prefectures, and so listing them by provinces would be more useful to me. Particularly if one were reading the Hizakurige or looking through a set of ukiyo-e prints depicting the journey along the Tokaido, I think I would find the names of the provinces to be more useful, as they would be referenced in these primary sources of the time. LordAmeth 16:50, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Historians generally have more knowledge than the general populace, but information should be set up in a way to benefit the greatest number of people. I've included the names of the provinces as a possible solution that can serve all parties. If there's something better, I'm more than willing to go with that. Douggers 01:04, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Looks great to me. Thanks a lot for your help. LordAmeth 15:37, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Glad I could help. You wouldn't happen to have a list of the provinces for the Nakasendō, would you?

Sorry, I'm afraid I don't. Thanks so much for your efforts, though. LordAmeth 23:27, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Separating the Page

I'm creating a separate page just for all of the stations of the Tōkaidō, since it's really just a list anyway. I'm also trying to reorganize the rest of the page into a more useful format. Douggers 05:07, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

no history section?

When was it built (started/completed)? Who initiated it? Importance to Tokugawa Ieyasu's campaigns? -HammerFilmFan — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.111.19.250 (talk) 06:47, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

I found the following information about Tokaido history on brittanica.com :

"From ancient times the road was the chief route from the capital city of Kyōto eastward to central Honshu. The Tōkaidō became even more important during the Tokugawa (Edo) period (1603–1867), since it connected Edo, the capital city of the Tokugawa shogunate, with western Honshu."

source (21 May 2023):

[1]https://www.britannica.com/topic/Tokaido Whitefishdontjump (talk) 04:30, 22 May 2023 (UTC)