Talk:TACA Flight 390

Irish Registration?

The article's template says that the plane wsa registered under EI-TAF. I'm not sure if this is correct; planes with registrations beginning with EI- are registered in the Republic of Ireland. Does anyone know the source for this? And if there is none, could somebody find the correct registration for the aircraft? -Robert Skyhawk (Talk) 00:15, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Many non Irish aircraft carry Irish registrations as a result of being owned by an Irish leasing company, in this case ALIX Leasing Limited. The registartion is indeed correct. --88.110.117.203 (talk) 11:29, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

The registration EI-TAF is listed on several aircraft databases, including this one:

http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=20080530-0

and is the same registration when it flew with Martinair livery from 2007-05-01 to 2008-03-01. If you look at this link:

http://www.planespotters.net/Production_List/Airbus/A320/1374.html

you will see it had five different liverys between 2001 (construction) and 2008, three of them being TACA. --CubBC (talk) 11:53, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

And to add TACA itself said that the plane was an "Irish Plate" WhisperToMe (talk) 00:28, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

It is definitely correct, the registration is clearly seen in a crash picture. --Starbucks95905 (talk) 00:37, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

My mistake; thank you all kindly for the corrections. Perhaps the template should be cited somehow, but this probably isn't important/necessary. -Robert Skyhawk (Talk) 01:27, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Relevance: Similarities with TAM Flight 3054???

I keep deleting this section because I think it is irrelevant. Somebody keeps adding it back. Here are my thoughts on these "so called" similarities:

Same aircraft type and model A320-233 Lots of crashes are the same plane. There is no indication that the aircraft model had anything to do with this crash.
Same accident general characteristics (overran runway, wet cloudy conditions) This is the only relevant part, and may be worthy of a sentence, not a separate section.
Similar aircraft flight hours and cycles 21,957 and 9,992 for 390;, 20,379 and 9,313 for 3054 Given that this is the same model aircraft (likely built around the same time), it is not odd that they both were flown as much. There is no indication that aircraft fatigue played a role in either crash, thus, the number of cycles is irrelevant.
Both aircraft were at one point in time operated by TACA There is no indication that, in the TAM crash, the prior ownership by TACA played any role in the crash. Psychocadet (talk) 04:34, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

• It sounds like original research. WhisperToMe (talk) 05:44, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
• The user "onethingleadstoanother" keeps adding it back in!. Psychocadet (talk) 01:19, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
  • As per Wikipedia:Original research - "Articles may not contain any new analysis or synthesis of published material that serves to advance a position not clearly advanced by the sources." WhisperToMe (talk) 14:42, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Plane landed to the correct runway

I read the crash report ::http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=20080530-0 it says he was cleared to land at runway 02 and he landed at runway 02. But on the wikipedia page it says it landed the opposite way. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.161.194.105 (talk) 12:46, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Documents

These are all documents related to the accident hosted by the El Salvador Civil Aviation Authority at http://web.archive.org/web/20120326023831/http://www.aac.gob.sv/archivos/390/ - http://archive.is/71jle

PDF files:

• http://web.archive.org/web/20120421021812/http://www.aac.gob.sv/archivos/390/METEORO.pdf - http://www.webcitation.org/6MEqsEjVE
• http://web.archive.org/web/20120326023831/http://www.aac.gob.sv/archivos/390/MPMANUAL.pdf - http://www.webcitation.org/6MErHkqaB
• http://web.archive.org/web/20120326023831/http://www.aac.gob.sv/archivos/390/MTTO.pdf - http://www.webcitation.org/6MErODjmL
• http://web.archive.org/web/20120326023831/http://www.aac.gob.sv/archivos/390/NOTOC.pdf - http://www.webcitation.org/6MErQIg8G
• http://web.archive.org/web/20120326023831/http://www.aac.gob.sv/archivos/390/OPERACIONES.pdf - http://www.webcitation.org/6MErSqrtJ
• http://web.archive.org/web/20120326023831/http://www.aac.gob.sv/archivos/390/QRH.pdf - http://www.webcitation.org/6MErVf1bq
• http://web.archive.org/web/20120326023831/http://www.aac.gob.sv/archivos/390/RUNWAY.pdf - http://www.webcitation.org/6MErXtzQf
• http://web.archive.org/web/20120326025238/http://www.aac.gob.sv/archivos/390/aerodromos.pdf - http://www.webcitation.org/6MEu3DW3u
• http://web.archive.org/web/20120326025522/http://www.aac.gob.sv/archivos/390/aipTGU.pdf - http://www.webcitation.org/6MEu78gWY
• http://web.archive.org/web/20120326024927/http://www.aac.gob.sv/archivos/390/artero.pdf - http://www.webcitation.org/6MEt3JexN - Profile of first officer Juan Rodolfo Artero Arevalo
• http://web.archive.org/web/20120326025330/http://www.aac.gob.sv/archivos/390/beafdr.pdf - http://www.webcitation.org/6MEuFBLaE - BEA letter in English about the FDR
• http://web.archive.org/web/20120326023818/http://aac.gob.sv/archivos/390/bitacora.pdf - http://www.webcitation.org/6MEu9fVXH
• http://web.archive.org/web/20120326024046/http://www.aac.gob.sv/archivos/390/bitacorajefe.pdf - http://www.webcitation.org/6MEuBXdvU
• http://web.archive.org/web/20120326024214/http://www.aac.gob.sv/archivos/390/cartaDE.pdf - http://www.webcitation.org/6MEvATKTp - Letter from AAC Executive Director Lic. José René Rodríguez Gutiérrez to (Abogado) Guillermo Seaman, the general director of the Civil Aviation Authority of Honduras
• http://web.archive.org/web/20120326025131/http://www.aac.gob.sv/archivos/390/cartasaprox.pdf - http://www.webcitation.org/6MEvCCIzY
• http://web.archive.org/web/20120326023831/http://www.aac.gob.sv/archivos/390/chequeo.pdf - http://www.webcitation.org/6MEvEDdul
• http://web.archive.org/web/20120326024107/http://www.aac.gob.sv/archivos/390/cierrepax.pdf - http://www.webcitation.org/6MEvG4Tk3
• http://web.archive.org/web/20120326024006/http://www.aac.gob.sv/archivos/390/cierrerampa.pdf - http://www.webcitation.org/6MEvKLHcq
• http://web.archive.org/web/20120326024743/http://www.aac.gob.sv/archivos/390/dantonio.pdf - http://www.webcitation.org/6MEt7O1Ml - Profile of captain Cesare Edoardo D'Antonio Mena
• http://web.archive.org/web/20120326023831/http://www.aac.gob.sv/archivos/390/declaraciones.pdf - http://www.webcitation.org/6MEvjW0su - Letter from Captain Marco Artero, director of operations of TACA International Airlines, S.A. to Rodriguez with an ATTN to Ing. Ernesto Lorenzana
• http://web.archive.org/web/20120326023831/http://www.aac.gob.sv/archivos/390/delegacion.pdf - http://www.webcitation.org/6MEvrCBWg - Letter from Seaman to Rodriguez
• http://web.archive.org/web/20120326023831/http://www.aac.gob.sv/archivos/390/eicars.pdf - http://www.webcitation.org/6MEvyUQUk
• http://web.archive.org/web/20120326023831/http://www.aac.gob.sv/archivos/390/frenos.pdf - http://www.webcitation.org/6MEw21q0r
• http://web.archive.org/web/20120326023831/http://www.aac.gob.sv/archivos/390/fuelorder.pdf - http://www.webcitation.org/6MEw5K90V
• http://web.archive.org/web/20120326023808/http://aac.gob.sv/archivos/390/general.pdf - http://www.webcitation.org/6MEwKHoPj
• http://web.archive.org/web/20120326023831/http://www.aac.gob.sv/archivos/390/licenciascop.pdf - http://www.webcitation.org/6MEwoxFRd - Licenses held by Artero
• http://web.archive.org/web/20120326023831/http://www.aac.gob.sv/archivos/390/licenciaspic.pdf - http://www.webcitation.org/6MEwthstX - Licenses held by D'Antonio
• http://web.archive.org/web/20120326023831/http://www.aac.gob.sv/archivos/390/lineas.pdf - http://www.webcitation.org/6MEx4vZY9
• http://web.archive.org/web/20120326023831/http://www.aac.gob.sv/archivos/390/lineasvuelo.pdf - http://www.webcitation.org/6MEx7A7Yp
• http://web.archive.org/web/20120326023831/http://www.aac.gob.sv/archivos/390/loadinginst.pdf - http://www.webcitation.org/6MExBprTl
• http://web.archive.org/web/20120326024123/http://www.aac.gob.sv/archivos/390/manifiestopax.pdf - http://www.webcitation.org/6MExKmamy - Passenger manifest
• http://web.archive.org/web/20120326023831/http://www.aac.gob.sv/archivos/390/metar.pdf - http://www.webcitation.org/6MExMCqmB
• http://web.archive.org/web/20120326023831/http://www.aac.gob.sv/archivos/390/ntsbreport.pdf - http://www.webcitation.org/6MExO8jPA - Flight Recorder Group Meeting Report from the NTSB Vehicle Recorder Division, June 5, 2008
• http://web.archive.org/web/20120326023831/http://www.aac.gob.sv/archivos/390/operationsnotes.pdf - http://www.webcitation.org/6MEy7Ifl5
• http://web.archive.org/web/20120326023831/http://www.aac.gob.sv/archivos/390/overviewTGU.pdf - http://www.webcitation.org/6MEy9sowo
• http://web.archive.org/web/20120326023831/http://www.aac.gob.sv/archivos/390/pesoyb.pdf - http://www.webcitation.org/6MEyF5JOK
• http://web.archive.org/web/20120326023831/http://www.aac.gob.sv/archivos/390/planv.pdf - http://www.webcitation.org/6MEyJ1rqh
• http://web.archive.org/web/20120326023831/http://www.aac.gob.sv/archivos/390/powerplantnotes.pdf - http://www.webcitation.org/6MEyLi90N
• http://web.archive.org/web/20120326023831/http://www.aac.gob.sv/archivos/390/recurrentecap.pdf - http://www.webcitation.org/6MEyXF2s0
• http://web.archive.org/web/20120326023831/http://www.aac.gob.sv/archivos/390/recurrentecop.pdf - http://www.webcitation.org/6MEya4Se4 - TACA's roster of attendance (control de asistencia)
• http://web.archive.org/web/20120326023831/http://www.aac.gob.sv/archivos/390/reporteops.pdf - http://www.webcitation.org/6MEydZelC
• http://web.archive.org/web/20120326023831/http://www.aac.gob.sv/archivos/390/sita.pdf - http://www.webcitation.org/6MEyfOoFM
• http://web.archive.org/web/20120326023831/http://www.aac.gob.sv/archivos/390/systemnotes.pdf - http://www.webcitation.org/6MEyhF2HZ
• http://web.archive.org/web/20120326025414/http://www.aac.gob.sv/archivos/390/timesalida.pdf - http://www.webcitation.org/6MEz2TllZ
• http://web.archive.org/web/20120326023831/http://www.aac.gob.sv/archivos/390/transcript.pdf - http://www.webcitation.org/6MEz5tTQa
• http://web.archive.org/web/20120326023831/http://www.aac.gob.sv/archivos/390/wbeitaf.pdf - http://www.webcitation.org/6MEz81mjs - Aircraft weight and balance report
• http://web.archive.org/web/20120326023831/http://www.aac.gob.sv/archivos/390/weather - http://www.webcitation.org/6MEzAH9bb

Images:

• http://web.archive.org/web/20120421021920/http://www.aac.gob.sv/archivos/390/1.jpg - http://archive.is/o0CAG
• http://web.archive.org/web/20120326023831/http://www.aac.gob.sv/archivos/390/2.jpg - http://archive.is/3fc9K
• http://web.archive.org/web/20120326023831/http://www.aac.gob.sv/archivos/390/3.jpg - http://archive.is/XJa1V
• http://web.archive.org/web/20120326023831/http://www.aac.gob.sv/archivos/390/4.jpg - http://archive.is/41N6M
• http://web.archive.org/web/20120326023831/http://www.aac.gob.sv/archivos/390/5.jpg - http://archive.is/iS8j9
• http://web.archive.org/web/20120326023831/http://www.aac.gob.sv/archivos/390/6.jpg - http://archive.is/RUpPK
• http://web.archive.org/web/20120326023831/http://www.aac.gob.sv/archivos/390/7.jpg - http://archive.is/qCYgZ
• http://web.archive.org/web/20120326023831/http://www.aac.gob.sv/archivos/390/8.jpg - http://archive.is/0GUNh

Videos:

• http://web.archive.org/web/20120326023831/http://www.aac.gob.sv/archivos/390/foqa.avi - http://www.webcitation.org/6MEqWDLnC

Reports (at http://www.aac.gob.sv/archivos/cai/ ):

• http://www.aac.gob.sv/archivos/cai/390.pdf (preliminary report, already archived, in English)

WhisperToMe (talk) 07:42, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

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