Talk:Tai Streets/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Iamnothuman (talk) 03:39, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

I am not the reviewer, but I think that this should be put on hold until the article is rewritten. As it stands, it is over-linked, over-sourced, contains non-enyclopedic information, seems to contain a good bit of bias, and does not use very good grammar. Still learning how this place works, so hopefully this is the "appropriate" action. Iamnothuman (talk) 03:39, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

The article is well within the quality range for serious GA consideration after a GAC workout. This is what I have done several times in the recent past and I have about 50 Michigan GA credits now. You did not help the reader to learn about the guy by removing anything that you removed.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 07:18, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

• I have seen your past edits and while I think you have made a number of good contributions, there are a lot of problems with this article. I cannot and will not speak to your other examples, but I'm pretty perterbed that you called me a vandal, got into an edit war with me, and have the audacity to report me when I came to you and asked for discussion and help. 180 citations on the article is excessive and unecessary. Further to the point, much of the content in it is superfulous and not particularly interesting. The wiki system even tells you that the length of the article is too much, yet you don't seem to care. Stop being so confrontational and try and work with people. Unless you change your attitude, you're not going to get very far with me. All that aside, you still have yet to properly address any of the concerns I laid out. Iamnothuman (talk) 08:31, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

• Just a note that Newsbank still isn't working for me (I don't think it will again, alas) so I'll assume good faith on the references, which actually knocks out a lot of this review. I'll get to this today or tomorrow. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 16:41, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
  • Take your time. I am still behind. I have to respond to Talk:Victoria's Secret Fashion Show/GA1.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 17:34, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Here's the review, split up by sections: (doing a bit at a time to make it easier on both ends)

High school

• The first couple sentences start off a bit jarring. Granted, this is partially due to his early life info mainly being in the personal life section at the end of the article; it ends up being chronologically confusing. I think it would work better to move the pre high-school stuff up here and rename the section to early life.
  • Done.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 06:07, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
• "He was considered to be the best high schooll wide receiver in Illinois." You mention he was considered the best high school athlete in Illinois earlier so this seems unnecessary.
  • I am not sure it is redundant or unnecessary. The best athlete was a local journalist, while the best WR was from a high school sports national guru. I have tried to clarify this.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 14:19, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
• I'm guessing SICA East is the conference; what's the full name?
  • Been surfing the net and unable to find the answer to this query.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 16:48, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
• Did he get a scholarship for both football in basketball? The article implies this and it seems awfully unusual, so double-checking.
  • What part of the text are you contesting. The word scholarship is not even in the article and I can not find any text that implies what you are saying.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 00:31, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
    • "He was part of a Michigan Wolverines men's basketball incoming number-one ranked recruiting class with three McDonald's All-Americans: Robert Traylor, Albert White, and Louis Bullock.[48]" This makes it sound just like he was part of that incoming group. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 02:52, 7 March 2010 (UTC) Nevermind this issue, I figured it out after starting to read through the college section. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 03:07, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

College

• I'm presuming Streets just played the one season of basketball. Any notes as to why he left? Probably to focus on football so I'm probably asking for info where none is needed here, but I thought I'd ask.
  • The article is pretty much as comprehensive as I could make it. He barely got any time the year he played. So imagine he focussed on the sport that he had the potential to become professional at. No sources though.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 18:59, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
• I made a couple tweaks, but otherwise there are no actual issues here.

Professional

I made some copyedits, but no issues save for one:

• "The Lions signed wide receiver Kevin Johnson in April 2005." Right, and IIRC they drafted another wideout too. Anyway, it's an odd way to end the section; add a note that he wasn't signed by any team afterwords. If you can find a cite all the better, but if not leave the note anyway. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear}
  • I had looked for a ref saying he went unsigned, but did not find one. I have reworked the end of the paragraph in response to your comments.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 01:12, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Personal

No issues. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear}

Misc.

Anyway, other than the remaining profession issue, the article is quite good. Only thing I'd ask is before FAC if you want to go there, go through a peer review to get the prose fine-tuned. I found the prose to be average and not very compelling despite being interested in the subject, so someone not interested at all might find it difficult. Nonetheless, I'll put the article on hold and pass it when the last issue is fixed. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 00:47, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

All my concerns are now addressed, so I'll pass the article as a GA. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 01:20, 8 March 2010 (UTC)