Talk:Taki (Soulcalibur)/Archive 1

{{NPOV}} HANNZO HATORRI Man what is up all you do is trash peoples hard work on wiki sorry we actually have lifes oh and for the article i beleive we should put one more taki pictur as her main one and remove the one with namco vs. capcom If her physical resembalence to Sango is noted, her vocal resembalecne to Kikyo should also be noted.

Images

Do there need to be so many Taki pictures? I mean, sure, Taki isn't hideously ugly, but she's got by far, the most pictures of any soul calibur charachter. (Yoshimitsu's got quite a few, but he's special, due to his dual heritage.) I mean, the pictures could be thinned out a little, I think.

I think most are fine, it show every incarnation of Taki and so it shows her development. The problem (BIG problem) is the last imagen, which may show her in her SC3's alternative outfit, but the pic is actually the cover of and Adult magazine (Or comic, I'm not sure) and it's is sexually oriented, for which it must be deleted Alexlayer 05:05, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

You mean, the OMG panties? They changed only color - does this is what bothers you? Actually, it's not more than in her other outfits. Now, WELCOME TO WIKIPEDIA. Wake up. --HanzoHattori 08:16, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Character Analysis breaks NPOV

The character analysis for SC3 is blatantly opinionated and isn't neutral.

I see what you mean "Her close-range game is as excellent as always". - The 4th Snake

Request:

Please kindly add the performance of Taki in major tournaments.TY - Jem

I'm getting tired of this: Her close-range game is as excellent as always, her possession stance is still great, and she is still swifter than the wind. So basically, most of the modifications in SC3 are for the good: she has been awarded some better running-moves (66A_B), and finally, we get to see some of those magic-like ninjutsu-bombs we saw at the opening for SC2. One significantly good addition to her already great list of moves, is a jump throw which has to be executed while performing the jump "Stalker" (SC2: A+B, SC3: A+K). -so after pulling of the ninja bomb combo at e.g. (A,B,4A+B), which sends your opponent up flying, you can finish with the in-air-throw. There are few other throws in SC3 which looks as smooth as this one So much POV crap in this paragraph, I'm removing it now. And there is no need to list all of her moves that you think are the best, everyone can play a game differently. This isn't a game guide, it's an encyclopedia, so stop adding the ways you play the game. I'm done ranting now. 65.43.172.138

Ninjatō

Taki's weapons aren't "possibly" ninjato swords, they are ninjato swords, as has been stated explicitly in ever Soul Calibur game. This fact is irrefutable. I don't see how ninjatos could be too big to be Taki's weapons either, as they are fictional weapons that have never been made in real life, so their scale is impossible to judge. 80.41.26.122 00:56, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Reasons for the rewrite.

This is what an user asked, so here it is:

1. In-Universe bio: Fictional character profiles shouldn't be written from an inside-the-universe view, or like one would write a real person's biography. These profile must be written from an outside view, or real word perspective, clearly showing the character as part of a videogame, not like if he were a real person.

2. Copyvio on both weapons and stages: Those are largely taken directly from their respective in-game entries (the stages specially, they're not even reworded). Wikipedia is not a site to repeat the same information untouched. One must write from scratch every bit of information, avoiding directly copy-paste works, which ALL the soul characters possess.

3. Character Analysis has been larguely considered filled with Original Research (unsourced claims) and POV (Point of View - opinions from the writer). Besides, Wiki is NOT a gaming site, detailed gameplay accounts doesn't have a place here. Those templates on every of these sections, placed by more knowledgable editors, refers this problems aswell.

4. Trivia section must be avoided, as they tend to be filled with anything indiscriminately. Things like "Taki looks like Sango" are not only unsourcable, but irrelevant and merely opinion from fans. If there's something that can be integrated into the main body of the article (or a more specific section), it must be done. Anything else must be deleted, as it is probably unsourced, irrelevant and unenciclopedic.

There's a fifth problem: size. The character biography is way too detailed. We don't need to cite every small detail of Taki's fictional life, just resume her various bios for a non-fan to get the gist of her place in the games. Wikipedia is not a fansite for Soul Calibur, is an enciclopedia to give people insight in what interest them.

And before I depart, the "because every other character page has it, it must remain" is not a good argument. If its broken, eventually it will be fixed. The soul characters are all a mess and require the same treatment that this page received, and even more. Thanks for reading, and respond before reverting once again. Thanks again. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 201.255.24.177 (talk) 01:31, 4 March 2007 (UTC).

Anonymous:

1. GET AN ACCOUNT. Are you really lazy or something? I see you aren't new - are you banned or what?

2. Sign your posts.

3. "Enciclopedia" is not a real word. English at least.

4. See the other SC (Mortal Kombat, Street Fighter, etc) bios. Do you hate Taki personally or something? As for "Those templates on every of these sections", I see only on one Taki section. I just checked several SC characters, there was none at all.

5. You can remove "Taki looks like Sango". But don't do a MASSIVE (-9,492) edits without any discussion. Especially, not as Anonymous. When you encounter a controversy, discuss it. When a conflict during discussion, you start a vote. --HanzoHattori 01:52, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

1. Not interested in getting an account.

"Not interested in" opinion of Anonymous. Anonymous has no rights. --HanzoHattori 02:04, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

3. Typo. When you write that fast, you are bond to commit mistakes like that.

4. Look at Solid Snake or Link article. THOSE are the good ones. Most of the fighting game char articles are so awfully written it isn't funny.

5. Sorry, but no. Character Analysis can't remain, its a mess of personal opinions and unsourced claims. Look at soulcalibur.com and see how many different ways to play her exists. Trivia is and will continue be removed. And the in-game biography will slowly dissapear, by my hand. Copyvio is not tolerated, there's no need of a vote there. Those things WILL be rewriten or removed at sight. I've stated my reasoning for the chance, and all comply with Wikipedia's directives. And this move has been started in other Soul characters, and remained. Thanks for reading. 201.255.24.177 01:57, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Listen, pal. GET AN ACCOUNT, then get back and provide proofs on you allegations. Until then, nothing will "dissapear by Anonymous' hand", even if "slowly" now. --HanzoHattori 02:04, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Oh, and those chars you checked...there was no template, because the "Character Analysis" section was removed beforehand. Because of the reasons I stated above. 201.255.24.177 02:01, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

You, again? --HanzoHattori 02:04, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Okay, not you (only). I think. --HanzoHattori 02:13, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Some of the guidelines I follow:

In-Game Biography - Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(writing_about_fiction)

Trivia - WP:TRIV

POV - WP:NPOV

Source - WP:REF

I don't do things out of hate, I do it to get a better Wiki. I'll continue rewriting and fixing the others page, not only SC but any other I think deserves this treatment. And don't insist, I'll not get an account. Thanks. 201.255.24.177 02:18, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Man, man, man... your "I'll not get an account" is just weird. You are a very strange person, and quite suspicious too - are you aware of this? If you allege the text is copied (without being sources, or quoted), you should provide the proof - a link, really. --HanzoHattori 02:26, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

The Weapon section is mostly taken from both Soul Calibur and Soul Calibur II weapon gallery. The stages are DIRECT COPY-PASTE from the game's profiles. Go search a Stage FAQ on GameFAQ and check every stage account. Most, if not all, directly taken from the games. And cut it out with the account. Even if I do get one, that will not change this Edit War is it? 201.255.24.177 02:29, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm amazed (and amused) how crappy your article is, Anonymous, depite all the boasting. I'll finish correcting this when I'm back. Also, I won't be searching for nothing - these are your claims. --HanzoHattori 02:48, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Breast Size

They is some BIIIG titties. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.203.169.90 (talk) 07:17, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Taki, I am not ashamed to point out, has a very, very, very (very) notable breast size, especially noticeable in that red jumpsuit she wears in Soul Calibur II. I do believe it should be included in whatever physical description that comes up or in any "defining characteristics" article or related text. Whether or not it will be deleted once placed is my problem, and I ask you that if you say "yes", please don't delete it. Should it be added?

(Gabriel Texidor 18:41, 4 July 2007 (UTC))

Are you assuming people are blind? --HanzoHattori 09:52, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

No, just assuming they're using the false definition of modesty or are going to say "that's rather unnecessary, isn't it?"

Gabriel Texidor 03:20, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Yeah does it really matter if we add it or not? People still notice it about her anyway. Wait! All the girls have at least like a C cup right? Just ChKou Nurasaka 02:50, 7 July 2007 (UTC)ecking

The majority is a C, the rest D. Taki is the only one that is DD. Gabriel Texidor 22:14, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

I think that while people can obviously see that Taki has extremely large breasts, it is a fact worth placing on the page. Taki is noted in the gaming comunity as having a famous bust-size as well as the phyisics of her breasts. Simply put, I think that it is, "Credit due her". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.9.47.211 (talk) 02:59, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

What the fucking fuck? I haven't played the game since Soul Caliber 1 ( I was a huge fan) and am completely astounded at what they've done with the tits. The game used to feature normally proportioned characters, male and female, whose aesthetic charms came from a proportionate build. What the hell? Taki looks like a 13 year old's fetish fantasy. Those aren't tits, they're sexual deformities. Any criticism radical feminists give here, I'll be fored to agree with them, damn it. This is not a character, this is a masturbatory aid. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.173.233.140 (talk) 02:16, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

People, IT ALL DOESN'T MATTER. She is a ninja not a science experiment. Note worthy or not, do you think women like having their breasts pointed out to by others?ThegreatWakkorati (talk) 10:39, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

I was going to point this out as well. Look at the picture from the Soul Edge / Soul Calibur 1 games...Then look later on. Sheesh!

Actually I don't care, it's just lame that they changed her. And by the way, there really are Japanese girls who look like that, naturally...Yoko Matsugani, my friends... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 153.91.65.169 (talk) 18:37, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

What the...

Hey guys, not sure if you noticed, but TAKI IS GONE FROM THE CHARACTER LIST!!! (I mean at the bottom of every Soul Calibur character's article.) Mythmonster2 16:43, 21 October 2007 (UTC) Well that's not much better, she's inbetween Hilde and Inferno!

Anyone have a Japanese reference?

It would be good if we had a solid citation for what "Taki" means. Jmjanssen 21:32, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Gameplay

Okay, this is pretty much just like the old character analysis section from before. I'm removing these for the same reason people from before deleted the character analysis section. If you want to find out why, check out Taki's and Kilik's talk pages. If people want a strategy guide, they should go to fansites. Mythmonster2 (talk) 06:30, 16 June 2008 (UTC)