Talk:Tennis at the 2024 Summer Olympics

Medal summary format

Please do not change the format of the medal summary without consensus at WP:OLYMPICS. This is per WP:OLYMPIC standard. You can compare other examples [1] and [2] Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 00:23, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

No it is not as was discussed elsewhere. The Olympic events have lots of differences through the years. And this would be inconsistent with past Olympic tennis articles. Fyunck(click) (talk) 23:43, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

This is not a tennis only event. The Olympics are across MULTIPLE sports, so consistency is necessary as per the WP:OLYMPICS talk page. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 00:47, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

And as explained at the Olympics talk page, the events are not consistent by a long shot. Even their examples are different. Fyunck(click) (talk) 01:23, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

Which part? Just a quick glance of 3 of the 2024 pages [3], [4] and [5] has the Medal table at the top. Are you seeing anything different from 2024? Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 01:39, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

I have started a discussion specific to the order of medal table / medalists at WP:OLYMPICS. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 01:45, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

No problem, but you are the one who originally changed it so it's back to the way it was before you edit warred. Fyunck(click) (talk) 06:58, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

You didn't answer my question. Which events from 2024 do you see with the Medal table at the bottom? @Fyunck(click) Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 10:33, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

It's listed for other years at the other locations this discussion has morphed to. 2024 is just one more year out of many. And the Olympic project gives examples of multiple ways to do it. Fyunck(click) (talk) 17:19, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

We are talking about 2024 here not "one more year on out of many". You have been reverted more than once by more than one editor. You have also failed to explain why tennis needs to be different than all other articles from 2024. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 22:52, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

And you exceed 3RR on this issue yet I didn't report it to ANi. Tennis is following Tennis Project consensus, and this article is no different that many other yearly Olympic articles. Just because you are demanding all 2024 articles be the same does not magically make it correct, as others have told you several times. Olympic Project guidelines give multiple types of good examples, and you seem to only want to use one. Stop it, and stop the crapola on my talk page. You have to convince all the other editors if you want to make changes that are disagreed to. Fyunck(click) (talk) 22:59, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

Again for the 3rd time, the WP:OLYMPICS goal is "Set up consistent structural and graphical layouts for displaying data on theme-specific articles." EVERY SINGLE SPORT for 2024 has the format with the medal table first. HOW DOES HAVING TENNIS with the medal table below meet this goal? I don't think you understand or don't want to understand, which is super frustrating. You have been reverted by more than one editor here. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 00:41, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

And for the umteenth time the Tennis project goal is similar. Just because you want 2024 Olympic articles the exact same, the Olympic Project doesnt care per it's guidelines! It's only you on some cookie-cutter crusade to purge anything different. Others have told you this and maybe they wouldn't stand up to you. No project has precedence over another... we all work together. Many of us are members of both. And stop pouring crap on my talk page as it's getting tiresome. Fyunck(click) (talk) 01:44, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

Tennis has quite a following even outside of Olympics, and to be entirely fair, I don't think there are that many persons interested in tennis who really care about the medal table by country. Featuring the tournament winners [and the links to the draws etc.] more prominently (as they are in the box at the top-right in Grand Slams, ex. 2024 French Open or Wimbledon 2024) would certainly be the more consistent option. But I see that's already done (just the box with the winners is separate from the main one). 69.165.195.198 (talk) 18:05, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

Which is probably why this high importance to Tennis project and mid importance to Olympic project. I agree that not many will care about the medal table but since Olympic articles tend to have it (but not all of them) there is no problem with keeping it... just not as prominently as the winners. Fyunck(click) (talk) 19:02, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

Merger discussion

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

---

• Oppose it is consistent with the big 4 (and this 5) tennis tournaments.Sportsnut24 (talk) 10:12, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
• Comment User who proposed a proposal should leave rationale. Unnamelessness (talk) 12:33, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
• Support this looks like it's going to be a nearly stats-only, clear instance of WP:NOTDATABASE page (as it is, indeed, at the Grand Slam tournaments as well). As a frequent user of the tennis pages here, the summaries don't add any information that is not already supposed to be in prose in the main pages or in the various draws of each singles/doubles events page. 69.165.195.198 (talk) 18:14, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

See the grand slam events. in olympic years it is a de-facto grandslam.Sportsnut24 (talk) 20:36, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

Not even close. I'd easily rank the year-end title bigger. The Olympics don't even award ranking points to the players so you could win it 10x and still get less points than a minor league event. Fyunck(click) (talk) 09:11, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose'. Keep. Consistency: Tennis at the 2020 Summer Olympics – Day-by-day summaries Teterev53 (talk) 21:55, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose: consistency with other big tennis events. – 333-blue at 14:55, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose: for the reasons stated above. Additionally, putting this in the "Schedule" section would just make this page very unnecessarily long. Jdavi333 (talk) 00:16, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

  Have you considered just... not putting it in at all? Precise day-by-day schedules are not at all important once the tournament is over, and the "consistency" argument only suggests one the other pages (whether Grand Slams or "de-facto Grand Slams", look at 2024 Wimbledon Championships – Day-by-day summaries, which has exactly no encyclopedic prose whatsoever) ought to be similarly dealt with. 69.165.195.198 (talk) 14:07, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

It is literally encyclopaedic by definition. This is not news for only headlines but for the the record.Sportsnut24 (talk) 18:09, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

• weak Oppose per reasons by multiple users above. Except... the Olympics are a lesser blip on the tennis radar compared to the four majors. It would be consistent with 2020 Olympic tennis, but I don't see a day-by-day at earlier events. Fyunck(click) (talk) 09:13, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Schedule

As per all other 2024 sport articles at the Olympics, the schedule remains at the top of the article. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 18:30, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

That's because of you changing them all. Olympic project has not such rule at all in all the years it's been here. It is of minimal importance to an article once the event is over as discussed on talk pages. Fyunck(click) (talk) 18:57, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

I am definitely not changing them "all" please stop lying. Please get consensus at WP:OLYMPICS first before moving it to a different part of the article. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 19:44, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

You are also blindly removing the photo that was added. For the 100th time please stop your disruptive editing. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 19:50, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

It's got consensus at Tennis project, and Olympic Project has no consensus either way. You are barking up the wrong tree here buddy. So please stop the vandalism. Fyunck(click) (talk) 23:59, 17 August 2024 (UTC)